Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft?

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  1. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

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    Think about it...

    Damian Lillard - Drafted 6th overall, 2012 (Pick acquired from trading Gerald Wallace at the trade deadline)

    LaMarcus Aldridge - Drafted 2nd overall, 2006 (Acquired from trading Tyrus Thomas (4th pick) and Viktor Khryapa on draft day)

    Nic Batum - Drafted 25th overall, 2008 (Acquried from trading Joey Dorsey (33rd pick) and cash (?) on draft day)

    Robin Lopez - Acquired via trade with Pelicans for Jeff Withey, a 2nd round pick and cash



    We acquired players with potential that were acquired with basically 2nd round picks and cash:

    Allen Crabbe
    Thomas Robinson




    We drafted players that fit team needs and have shown some promise this season:

    CJ McCollum
    Meyers Leonard



    Finally, we can't forget our free agent pickups:

    Wes Matthews - Signed a five-year, $34 million offer sheet when most people around the NBA looked at us like idiots

    Chris Kaman
    Steve Blake
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Will Barton in the 2nd round
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Joel Freeland is another good draft pick.
    We did make some mistakes also but Neil in particular has been stellar IMO
     
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  4. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Since 2006 we haven't made many mistakes IMO

    Brandon Roy was a great draft day trade, give me 4-5 years of Roy over a career of Foye.

    Greg Oden was just unfortunate injuries... No one can fault them for taking a dominant 7 footer (from what we saw in college).

    Jerryd Bayless was a decent draft day trade, he just wasn't used correctly under McMillan.

    Now... 09-11 was a bit rough but we had a "championship potential" core at the time... Claver, Elliot Williams and Nolan Smith were never going to be big minute guys anyway.
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Oden before Durant Was a mistake.
    Drafting Nolan. Trading for Felton. Even Drafting Bayless.
    Not saying I knew better but these were mistakes.

    Neil made very few obvious mistakes and many amazing moves.
    I think his biggest, most obvious mistake has been to not extend TRob.
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Why is that a mistake? If the team wants T-Rob they will offer him less than he would have gotten. They are probably under the assumption that T-Rob will sign their offer. We now have an environment that players want to be in, and I think it will translate into keeping this group together.

    Brand new top of the line training facility. A training staff that has shown to these players that they are elite at injury prevention. A head coach that all the players respect, likewise between the players. A front office that has shown it is capable of consistently taking steps forward. Great fan support (over rated category imo, I doubt players ever think of fan support when deciding if they want to play somewhere). Don't forget a winning team!
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Really bothers me when people say this.

    Hindsight is 20-20.
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Faried over Smith was such a no-brainer! I'd love to hear the story behind this.

    According to Ford and Simmons more than one team had Oden's knee red-flagged so KP's "Oden's knees are prestine" was a blatant lie.
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    The Bulls have done pretty well.

    DRose, Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson, Mirotic, McDermott, Noah, etc., through the draft.

    Gasol is old but having a great season, and had a great one last season... via FA.
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    The biggest red flag with oden is they were worried his body was breaking down. That he had the body of a vet, not a 19 year old.
    He hadn't recovered from his broken right wrist in the Orlando summit, and had a minor bulging disk in his back.
    I seriously doubt anyone would have passed on Oden because of how dominate he was in college. How it translated to the NBA so well.
    Hindsight is 20-20

    Also Bill Simmons is an idiot. Every time he talks my ears bleed.

    Aldridge also had red flags btw. Had hip surgery his freshman year at Texas.
    http://www.texassports.com/news/2006/6/21/062106aae_576.aspx
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Luke Babbit
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    That was truly the only mistake that wasn't hindsight. Everyone and their red headed step kids knew that was a mistake
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    What about Cunningham and Pendergraph over Dejuan "no ACL's" Blair?
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Everything the Patterson/Nash era was a mistake!
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    That was 2009. The Claver draft. A K-Pee pick.
     
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    Oh dayum! I guess so.
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    Neil Olshey (moves made as GM)

    Los Angeles Clippers: March 9, 2010 to June 4, 2012
    Portland Trail Blazers: June 4, 2012 to present

    Draft Picks, Trades, and Free Agent Signings

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/olshene99x.html
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    /debate Olshey is da man
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    yes, PatterNash.
    \thread

    But, yeah, I'm very happy with Neil. I am going to wait 10 more games before I email Simmons telling him to "suck it!" because of his criticism of Kaman.
     
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    Re: Are we the best team in the NBA when it comes to obtaining talent via trade/draft

    What's amazing about Olshey is what he hasn't done. Coming in as a GM you want to put your name on a team. Make moves that shows everyone that you're the man. But Olshey has made very few moves.
     
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