According to one of the NY newspapers....

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  1. Rick2583

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    they project this to be the 2015 Yankee starting lineup...........

    CF - Ellsbury
    LF - Gardner
    RF - Beltran
    C - McCann
    1B - Teixeira
    DH - Rodriquez
    3B - Headley
    2B - Prado
    SS - Gregorious

    Not sure about McCann at 4 or Prado that low down in the order. But we'll see.
     
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    Ah.....no. Did crack become legal in NYC?
     
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    McCann,Tex and Arod back to back to back ? lmao

    Looks like mucho DPs/Ks, not to mention having possibly the three biggest consecutive slugs on the base-paths in MLB.
    Prado should bat 6th, or 2nd depending on the SP - I would bat him 2nd vs LHP.
    There's also nothing wrong with breaking up McCann/Tex with Headley in between for a little more speed.

    And how can they justify batting Arod (as of NOW) above Headley and Prado? jerks
    Prado is a proven good consistent hitter who is still near the top of his game.

    Here we go again with the batting order thing.....
    ....there's no law demanding you have to bat Gardner - just because he's a fast runner - in the two spot.
    He's not exactly Rod Carew.
     
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    Prado career vs LHP

    BA .295
    OBP .361
    SLG% .462
    OPS .823
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    ARod is destined for the physically unable to perform list. PEDs didn't help him physically, it was his mental crutch. Without it, he's an insecure weenie scared of his own shadow. Not only can he not handle the physical demands, he can't handle the mental side of the game....likely never could.

    He does make it out of ST. That's why they did the Headley deal....and that is in ARods head now too.
     
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    Tell it to the "ny newspaper" which projected him batting 6th. lol
     
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    Typo...he doesn't make it out of ST.

    Of course this is moot if the FEDS give us a Christmas present and indict this fucker.
     
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    That is all I want from Santa Claus, the Feds to indict the fkr....! :smile:
     
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    ...and how do you know this ?
     
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    Ron I beg you, please don't get him started.
     
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    Watched the Cashman interview on "High Heat" this AM who indicated the improved "left side" will end result in a wait and see attitude on A-hole adding in that his best move when reporting would be to keep his mouth shut.
     
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    ...he's already started...and it was a legitimate question to a blanket statement.

    ...the fact is that neither he nor anyone else knows exactly what ARod has put in his system and how long he's been doing it.
     
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    The problem is though is he thinks he knows & at any moment will go into a "War & peace" type explanation on how he thinks he knows.
     
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    Fair enough. All that's known is what he admitted to, and speculation regarding his positive tests. The only validated double blind study for PEDs was related specifically to certain anabolic steroids. Data showed 2x muscle mass growth in the same time frame...typical 8 week cycle. Data also shows that conventional lifting can also achieve the same results in 2x the timeframe. Therefore is practically impossible to determine stat enhancement based PED vs non PED use, assuming HR hitting is a direct result to increased muscle mass...caveat, on the individual that has the skill to hit major league pitching already.

    Just my read, but I think there are some people on here that are dumb enough to buy into the false notion the PEDs have some sort of magical cheating properties. And there were more than a few dumb players that bought into this too. IMO, ARod and his lack of self confidence bought into this crap. Like Bonds, these guys didn't need a physical edge, they already had it. I'm just tossing out there that perhaps we need to equate this to an addiction.
     
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    War&Peace? Thats Rob.
     
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    True, but you're not far behind.
     
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    ...So PEDS didn't help elevate the games Canseco, Bonds, Anderson, McGwire, Sosa, Giambi, ARod, Caminitti, Matuzak, Alzado, and countless others ?

    ...please, don't tell me that you truly believe these guys could have achieved the same thing through good ole nutrition and working out. Power lifters, body builders, and other athletes take PEDs for reason, because they get results. If they didn't, there would not be a market for them that has existed for 50+ years.

    ...and please, don't tell me that "data" says there's no difference, because if I also choose to cherry pick clinical studies, I can also point to those who show otherwise. I'll match you google for google.


    ...furthermore, none of us here are experts on PEDs, and that includes you.
     
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    Let the games begin.
     
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    ...rick, I'm not trying to be a dick, though I certainly can be at times. But the fact is that Baseball needed to do something and with the blessings of the MLBPA, they did. The system is by no means perfect but again, something had to be done. The new replay system also still has bugs and will get better time and it still beats not having one at all.

    ...hell, today they decided that Chris Davis is OKed to use the very same drug that he was suspended for last year. (adderall)

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...ceives-adderall-exemption-20141216-story.html

    This seems odd but there are certain rules for exemptions and Davis didn't follow them last year. The "system" has some "holes" but like I said, they had to start somewhere. Hopefully it will be more streamlined as time goes on and more is learned.
     
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    On a lighter note, we may get more chances to watch the grass grow as Chris Capuano labors through his 5+ innings of work before the Yanks use 3 or 4 relief pitchers to finish his starts.



    Yanks sign Capuano to contract.
     

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