Barkley just said the Portland Trail Blazers are tops in the west

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  1. Sinobas

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    haha! We have yet another person who doesn't understand the basic logic and debate.
     
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    Link or it didn't happen
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    But that's 100% false. He's efficient from 3 and in the paint. So it completely destroys your argument. My response with how clutch he is when the game is close, explains how efficient he is.

    You are only holding one facet of Aldridge's game to complain about, while ignoring everything else. Hell you are even trying to discount 82games.com because it goes against your argument! Lol

    You keep trying to sell "I have facts" but you are only using 1 fact! Double LOL.
     
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    so, what i got out of that is assumptions and inferences of what hes said.

    I hate his fade away jumper too, and would prefer the straight one leg face up jumper... but, i can still see the benefits he gives this team. So, it is possible to not like one aspect and still see he benefits this team way more than hinders it. Try it.
     
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    BTW, if you want to debate LaMarcus as an entire player, not just his shooting, that's a different topic. If you notice, in this thread I said I thought he was a pretty good defender and a solid rebounder.

    But how do you evaluate his offense? He's shot under 40% from the field 11 times this season, and above 50% 7 times. I think most fans would agree that when you shoot under 40% from the field you hurt your team offensively. If you guys don't see it that way, fine, but that's the way I see it.
     
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    But he's not shooting 40%, so there's that.

    Lol at the discount on rebounding... "Pretty good?" I'm he's 10th in the league in rebounding sir.

    Also, score the most points, so there is your offense

    Last time I checked, games are decided by the team that scores more
     
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    This is his Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde syndrome. I agree with this observation. He's always back and forth with "LaMarsha" or "LaMonster."

    I propose a hybrid name: LaMosha
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Uncanny the resemblance!

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    Are you for real? Scoring in the paint is not jumpers. He's good from 3 and decent in the paint, the problem is what a large RATIO of shots he takes from mid range. More than any other player in the league. I question the accuracy of those clutch stats because of the wild values (100% inside for LA and 16% for Lillard), and the value (because of unknown sample size). However, if we take them at face value all they do is indicate that he should be taking more inside shots. Because they say he is shooting 100% from inside in the clutch and 38% on his jumpers (worse than overall).

    And for a guy that chucks up more FGA than any player in the league, FG% is a pretty big facet of his game. It's really big for any player, but especially for LA.
     
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    Are you for real? For chucking an inefficient jumper (40%) like you keep holding onto and still averaging 45% from the field is pretty amazing! 22.7 points, 10.5 rebounds, 1.3 blocks and 0.7 steals is pretty sexy.

    But hey, keep on trucking bro... Your jumper argument is all you can hold onto
     
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    There's number of rebounds then there's rebounding rate. He's ranked middle of the pack among PFs in rebounding rate. If you adjust for time played, there are over 30 guys ahead of him. So I don't see him as a "great" rebounder.
     
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    Link?
     
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    No, 45% is quite bad actually. To put it into perspective, LA's eFG% is the same as the Minnesota Timberwolves, the 2nd to worst offense in the league. Sorry buddy, you're not going to win this debate (though not sure if you will ever realize that).
     
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    You keep talking about efficient jumper, as I have told you repeatedly that's not what measures a star player. That's the cherry picking numbers you use for role players. When the usage goes any higher than 20, then you must factor the entire body of player.

    I do like your ignoring of 82games.com though. That was cute! :)
     
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    With Rolo does he really need to have a high rebound rate? I'd like to know his RR with and without rolo? rebounding rate is more indicitiave of having a center or lack of a center, really.
     
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    It's simple guys, put sinobas on ignore.
     
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    I am not buying the hurt the team offensively bit - as long as it is done within the flow of the offense and the team runs the plays for it.

    If LMA does not shoot the volume he does, he will not bring the other bigs out on him and will not open the interior as it does.

    Look, would it be better if he shot a better percentage? Sure. But since the coach plans the offense around him shooting as often as he does - and from where he does - and it works, I am going to go with - the proof is in the pudding. We have seen last year when he was out - and a bit this year when he was out - that when these so called "inefficient" shots are not taken - the team's win record is much lower.

    Now, you have to remember that Portland is one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the league, a lot of it comes from LMA dragging a big out to guard him when he shoots - which opens the interior for our other bigs, Batum and guards to do the offensive rebounding. Granted, if we had a team that is immune to offensive rebounding - it would not work well - but given the personnel this team has and the coaching it has - even his less than stellar efficiency with the jumper just works well.
     
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    Dude, clutchfans is ridiculous. I was respectful over there and got banned simply because you couldn't handle having your ass handed to you by the Blazers.

    Houston used to be my second favorite team because of Clyde, but fuck you all. You're a bunch of whiny little bitches just like your team.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    And until someone beats them in a seven game series, Shaq is 100% right.
     
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    Why? Did someone say something bad about me? Do I look fat in these pants?
     

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