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  1. blgridesagain

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    Yup, and I also don't get the love affair with Morgan.
    He certainly was a great player/2b but I wouldn't have listed him in the top 20.

    A little more perspective on Gwynn (.338 ba, 3141 H)
    There isn't a player with a career BA closer than 10 points with 3000 hits who began his career AFTER WW2.
     
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    Mattingly23NY Turning Fastballs Into Souveneir's ~

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    It's obvious the list creators, were biased towards big HR hitters, than pure hitters.

    I think Gwynn got short changed on this list MORE than any other single player. How in the Hell can these 3 Players NOT BE tied at the hips of a list?????
    Williams
    Musial
    Gwynn

    ????? Effing blows my mind, Gwynn was oft overlooked due to a small Diego Market, BUT became an International World Class Phenom of Old School type Greats...!!! A Modern Day Epic Legend. Clementesque, with equal talents only shared by a few greats of all time....!

    One knew halfway thru Tony's career, he most probably parallel some of the greatest hitter in history.
     
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    Gwynn wasn't the big power slugger type who also had/has the "good" BA so I don't expect him to be ranked up there with Williams, Mays, Ruth...ect....but it looks as if he's going to be (IMO) one of those underrated great players and ironically, his batting skill is probably contributing a bit to the rest of his exceptional good savvy game being taken for granted...IMO.

    And we've talked about Gehrig before....it seems like his name rarely if ever pops up amount the media talking heads when they're discussing all time great hitters.
    Have you ever noticed....lol,... they mention Williams, Ruth, Bonds, Mays, Musial,ect..rightfully so.....
    .....but no Lou! I get the feeling if it weren't for his playing streak and Wally Pipp, we would never hear his name except when Arod broke his career grand slam HR record.

    Look at his combined career BA with his slugging/OPS RBI....his WS batting. My Gosh.
    And he batted behind Ruth....he didn't have a "Ruth" batting behind him.
     
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  4. Rick2583

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    Batting behind Ruth with all those HRs makes Gehrig's RBI numbers even more amazing. And speaking of the Grand slam record do you know who holds the NL record for Grand slams? And don't cheat.
     
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    Not Musial.
    Not Willie?
    Not Aaron.

    Schmidt?
     
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    I remember from by baseball cards that Keith Hernandez was the active leader in GW-RBI at one point.... ;)
     
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    Mattingly23NY Turning Fastballs Into Souveneir's ~

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    IMO, since the Bambino literally put Fans back into the Stadiums, after & during the Black Sox Scandal, thus saving MLB, then I'd have no other choice to put Gehrig as #2, right behind the Babe, much like when the two played together., A 1-2 tandem on the field and on this ballot IMO.....Gehrig as as great as anyone when it came to hitting for avg, homers, and playing sound defense.

    To think Willie Mays was no doubt one of my favorites, as Mick was as a kid. But it was Mays whose autograph I got hanging out over the dugout in a fairly new Candlestick, with no ramifications. I'm very aware of the great Willie Mays career. Yet my Grandpa, would tell me all the time, when I mentioned how much I enjoyed seeing Willie Play, and he'd say, "Son, you haven't seen any great play yet, not until you can say you saw Ruth, Gehrig and DiMaggio play....!
     
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    He was a member of the other M&M boys, McCovey.
    And I believe Mattingly shares the single season record with 6.
     
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    We do have a few weeks before ST, lol!
     
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    Give that man a cigar. Better yet.......a candy cigarette.
     

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