that's the crazy thing....they score there, and now people are asking about how Tom throws red-zone picks, Belichick let the clock run down (I still swear he was trying to tell Collins to let Lynch run it in to get the ball back) and how, for all their shenanigans, NE hasn't won in a decade. Now, people are saying Brady's GOAT etc.... Guh
Brady's not GOAT. But he has been there, done that. And now he's done it again. But Seattle fans were ready to anoint Wilson as one of the all-time greats. Brady has more SB's, and Wilson did not play all that well the last two weeks.
I think even the most homerific fan would say that RW (even if he'd have made that throw last night) was more of the Terry Bradshaw/Roger Staubach mold of QB (winner, not a "pure" QB, makes plays with legs and arm, gets help from defense/RB, etc) than Manning/Favre/Brady/Montana/Elway. And I would've been ok with that. And I've seen and heard plenty over the last week and this morning of people downplaying the Hawks' defense historically and saying Brady's better than Montana in the playoffs, which combined with his regular-season stats makes him GOAT. If that's just a vocal minority I apologize, but it's getting nauseating.
There were comments last night, and in the week leading up to the game, and on sports radio..... people were all over Wilson's jock. "Stats don't matter, but when the Hawks win the SB, how can you not believe Wilson isn't right up there with the greats? And he's only in his 3rd year?" Weak shit like that. Because yeah, let's not forget it's a team sport and your D is pretty damn solid. I haven't seen a lot of "Brady's better than Montana". I've seen a lot of Brady's inclusion in the discussion of all-time great QB's, which is just and fair. He deserves to be in the conversation. But by and large, it seems most people still have Montana at #1.
Fair enough. I don't get a lot of NW talk radio, but I could see that happening. In Tampa they're heavily NE-based, and of course when Im listening Greeny/Colin/Russillo on the radio they're already NE lovers from being on ESPN. Which I have no problem with. But that's where it was coming up. And then NBC pointing out all the "career playoff records" Brady was breaking. Then again, I'm still bitter.
And you're right, he deserves to be in the conversation, and he may be the best. But I don't think that his playoff record has proven it.
Colin does jump Brady's nuts quite a bit (in large part cuz he's based in the area, I assume), but he jumps Wilson's nizzuts pretty tightly as well (I assume he's a Hawk fan, given he's a NW boy, but I limit how much I listen to Colin anymore).
You can't win them all, but his record isn't just his own doing. I mean, when they lost to the Ravens two seasons ago and missed out on the Super Bowl, that NE team was a shock to have made it that far. They were so injury-riddled. Don't get my wrong...... Nobody is as good as Joe in my book, but Brady's had an amazing career. Unparalleled in some ways. People still talk about Manning like maybe he's best ever. If they can talk about Manning that way, the Brady pushers have to take it a step further because he's had a better career, overall. From wikipedia: Brady and Joe Montana are the only two players in NFL history to win the NFL Most Valuable Player and Super Bowl MVP awards multiple times. Brady is the only quarterback to lead his team to six Super Bowls (four of them victorious).
Ya, even my wife - who knows almost nothing about sports - immediately wondered why they didn't run it in. Unreal.
This. My wife understands basketball, is a baseball fan, but knows nothing about football. She had the same reaction, but she was happy with the poor play call (she hates the Seahawks, which actually has nothing to do with my hatred of them).
Another reason to hate Blazer's Edge: Who Should I Root For? Whomever you want, we're all cool with that here. Unless you grew up as a Niners fan (as some did in Portland in the '90s), most people in the Northwest are rooting for the Seahawks, thanks to local connections and sharing an owner with the Blazers. http://www.blazersedge.com/2015/2/1/7937109/super-bowl-sunday-open-thread The fuck? Most people hates them down here and have been Niner and Raider fans all along. I guess that's more of the Portland bias. Ben Golliver is sorely missed there. By Ben Golliver.
No shit. But you forgot the third option.... if they weren't Niners and Raiders fans, they likely simply didn't care for the sport. Then, they jumped on the Hawk bandwagon when they became relevant, and pretend like they've been there all along.
isn't that what he's basically suggesting, though? "Who should I root for"? Uh, you're either a fan of a team or you're not. If you have to ask the week of the super bowl who you should be rooting for (and getting it from BE, of all places), and it's a team that's actually playing, then you might be a bandwagon fan.
The bigger question I have is "Why are you reading BE?" Who still reads BE? Who really read it when Ben was there?
I like how he said "some people", i was around then, EVERYONE loved them in this state. I guess those people all like his team now though.
LOL, no doubt. Props to Marshawn Lynch for his response to a reporter's question asking if he was surprised the ball didn't go to him: “No, because football is a team sport.”
When I saw fans complain about a few calls, I kept thinking back to the Pats' early punt and how Seattle was given a gift. Well, I just found this, which would have allowed the Pats to maintain possession: Early officiating blunder It did not take long for the officials to come into play. Three minutes into the game, referee Bill Vinovich threw a flag on Seattle’s Jeron Johnson for running into punter Ryan Allen , a 5-yard penalty that did not give the Patriots a first down. But Johnson actually hit Allen’s plant leg, which is supposed to be a 15-yard roughing-the-punter penalty.
I read Ben (and didn't read Dave), and there were frequently some nuggets in there. He also had "access" to be able to get the kind of quotes and stuff that Sly gets for us now. But I don't get Dave much at all.
