Official Around the NBA - February Edition

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  1. KingSpeed

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    Wow.
     
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  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    That was Wilt's final NBA season at the age of 36. Although he is most remembered for his ridiculous numbers early in his career, even at the end of his career, Wilt was a force to be reckoned with. He won the finals MVP at age 35 and at age 36, not only did he set the all time record for FG%, he also led the league in rebounding (18.6 rpg), played all 82 games and averaged over 43MPG, was an all star, 1st team all-defense and second in the entire league in Win Shares and came in 4th in MVP voting.

    BNM
     
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  3. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You may also be overlooking the fact that despite his atrocious FT%, he's still 3rd in the league in TS%, while also leading the league in rebounding (for the 2nd consecutive year) and is 2nd in blocks, with a PER over 20 while having a usage rate just over 12. He's basically the most productive non-scorer in the league. I agree with KS--he deserves to be an all-star.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Feb 9, 2015
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  4. e_blazer

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    Not a fan of Jordan. He's a garbageman who does basically nothing else but put back missed shot attempts. Looking at his shots dashboard on NBA.com, only .3 % of his shot attempts are catch and shoots and zero are pull-up jumpers. 86% of his shots he doesn't dribble at all and another 10.5% he only takes one dribble.
    http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201599/tracking/shots/

    Compare that with Mark Gasol. Yeah, he's only making about half of his shot attempts, but he's an active part of the offense. 30.5% of his shots are of the catch and shoot variety and another 10% are pull-ups. He's skilled enough that he can put the ball on the floor to improve his position on about a third of his shots.
    http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201188/tracking/shots/
     
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  5. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    By the way--I was looking up details of Wilt's 20-20-20 game last week, and I came across this thread in another forum. You should read the posts by the poster "jlauber". I could swear you two are the same person.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I don't think anyone here or anywhere else is going to argue that DJ is a better player than Marc Gasol. It doesn't make him an unvaluable player though.
     
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    I didn't say he wasn't valuable, KS said he thought he should be an All Star because of his FG%, which I don't buy because his game is so incomplete. Garbarge men are useful, but they're not All Stars.
     
    e_blazer, Feb 9, 2015
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    ...and you are 7-feet tall.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Sorry, gotta disagree. That makes him a great role player, but not an all-star IMHO.

    Because he blocks shots, his defense is overrated. He's not J.J. Hickson bad, but his net production (according to 82games.com) is only 4th best on his own team and he gets outscored by 6.2 PTS/48 by his opponents - which is pretty bad when you consider there aren't exactly a lot of great scoring centers in the league right now.

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  10. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So I want to watch the philly/GS game.

    It's Washington/Orlando. wtf LP?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    As an example of how bad Jordan's defense is, in spite of all the blocked shots, here's Opponent's Scoring, from best to worst, in PTS/48 (from 82games.com) for the starting centers on all the Western Conference playoff teams (as of today):

    Opponent's Scoring (PTS/48 minutes):
    Marc Gasol: 14.8
    Robin Lopez: 16.5
    Dwight Howard: 17.8
    Tyson Chandler: 18.2
    Tiago Splitter: 18.8
    Andrew Bogut: 19.1
    Alex Len: 19.6
    DeAndre Jordan 20.8

    BNM
     
    Boob-No-More, Feb 9, 2015
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    So does one have to be a scorer to deserve to be an all-star? If not, what else outside of scoring can justify an all-star berth?
     
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    Rodman and Shaq were also very incomplete players, yet also two of the best to ever play the game.
     
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...ns-shares-awesome-larry-bird-trash-talk-story

     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    NBA will shorten the season sooner rather than later. So many freaking injuries this season. DAL without Ellis and Chandler for the rest of the game. Chandler = Ankle; Ellis = ???
     
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    uh,,they have a game to lose
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    They don't care. They really have nothing to lose. Losing a game means nothing to them. I still stand by it.
     
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    I never said they didn't want to lose it...it's just something they CAN lose
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Losses to them are just a fact, in the grand scheme of things is what I'm talking about. The loss means nothing but a number to them, so in turn they have nothing to lose.

    That outside the box thinking, man! :ghoti:
     
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    That outside the box thing has gotten many a coach fired
     
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