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  1. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    True, and I'd want better defense in a starter, but bench scoring continues to be a huge weakness for the Blazers and Martin would address that weakness. As a bench player, he would rarley be tasked with guarding the opponents best scoring wing player.

    Afflalo is a better defender, but his net contribution is much less than Martin's. The sample size this year is limited to 16 games (so far) for Martin, but if you compare his net production to Afflalo's both this year, and last (when both players were starters on bad teams), Martin gives you much more than he gives up - and that's as a starter playing against other starting SGs. Imagine how good he'd look coming off the bennch lighting up other teams' 2nd stringers.

    2014-15:

    Kevin Martin:
    Own Production = 20.6
    Opponent's Production = 14.2
    Net Production = +6.4

    Arron Afflalo:
    Own Production = 12.8
    Opponent's Production = 12.7
    Net Production = +0.0

    2013-14:

    Kevin Martin:
    Own Production = 17.1
    Opponent's Production = 12.8
    Net Production = +4.3

    Arron Afflalo:
    Own Production = 16.9
    Opponent's Production = 15.8
    Net Production = +1.1

    BNM
     
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  2. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Not to make excuses, but it was a lot easier to make trades then
     
  3. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

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    Afflalo and Martin are 1a and 1b, of all the names bandied about, IMO. Everyone else is a distant 3c.
     
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    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

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    Afflalo would be awesome in the sense that he could boot Batum out of the starting lineup, and he'd be insurance in case we don't resign Matthews, but I can understand the hesitation since he's an expiring contract. If he had a couple of years left though, I'd trade him for our 1st in a heartbeat.
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure the expiring contract is a bad thing, especially when you've made moves to set up maximum cap space like neil has.
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Our first pick has more value in a trade than it ever would if we actually used it to pick someone. We don't have room or time for another development project.
     
  7. riverman

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    But JJ Hickson steals a lot of your touches and rebounds. Not a fair fight. Afflalo coming off the bench in Denver but wasn't KMart starting for the Wolves?
     
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    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

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    Wes Matthews could use some help at that position. Either Affalo or Martin would do that and make us more dynamic offensively. I think it's needed back there or the three.
     
  9. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Bob Whitsitt was active at the Midseason Trade Deadline, except in his last Blazer years when the Oregonian was wearing him down. In 16 Midseason Deadlines (plus a 50-game season), he had 9* major trades, which qualifies as a bunch. Olshey won't be a full-time GM until he trades/signs all year round.

    SONICS
    1987* signed Eddie Johnson
    1988* Sedale Threatt for Sam Vincent
    1989 signed Greg Ballard and Mike Champion to 10-days
    1990* Steve Johnson and a #2 for Brad Sellers
    1990 signed Quintin Daily and Jim Farmer to 10-days
    1991* Ricky Pierce for Dale Ellis
    1991* Benoit Benjamin for Olden Polynice and #1s (LeRon Ellis, Brooks Thompson)
    1992 signed Tony Brown to a 10-day
    1993* Sam Perkins for Benoit Benjamin, rights to Doug Christie
    1994 signed Alphonso Ford to 10-day

    BLAZERS
    1995* Thorpe and a #1 (Childress) for Drexler and Murray
    1996 signed Rumeal Robinson to a 10-day
    1997* Augmon for McKie and Childress
    1997 signed Nembhard 10-day, waived Ennis Whatley
    1998* Damon Stoudamire, Walt Williams, Carlos Rogers for Kenny Anderson, Alvin Williams, Gary Trent, #1s (Bryce Drew, Mirsad Turkcan), #2 (Tyson Wheeler), cash
    1998 signed Gary Grant 10-day, waived Dontonio Wingfield and Vincent Askew
    1999 50-game season
    2000 none
    2001 waived Gary Grant
    2002 none
    2003 none
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Any way Denny can change the font? "#1s" sure is hard to read.

    So Whitsitt made 9 midseason trades in his first 11 seasons, and when he couldn't, signed a prospect to a 10-day contract, which usually got renewed to the end of the season. To have room, you prepare in advance for a trade by waiving a guy well before the deadline. It all takes planning 12 months a year. I used to criticize Pritchard for working only on draft day each year, but Pritchard had more midseason activity than Olshey, as little as it was. Get off your ass, Neil. Stop baking cakes.
     
  11. riverman

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    you cut and pasted this right?
     
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  12. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Kmart=Kenyon Martin !=Kevin Martin
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    Kevin Martin does know how to take contact and get to the line.
     
  14. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    How big of a line does their training staff have?
     
  15. riverman

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    I always called them both KMart..sort of like LA is also Los Angeles
     
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    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

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    Idk about y'all but... if we get KMart somehow it will be hard for me to watch flops like this...
     
  17. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

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    Wow, that might be the worst one I have ever seen!
     
  18. Boise Blazer

    Boise Blazer Thread Lightly

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    You must not have ever seen to rare triple flop

     
  19. Rhal

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    Kmart is injury prone is my real issue with him. Id take affalo over him all day because of that and affalos D.
     
  20. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    I'd take Mo Williams over afflalo/KMart
     

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