MONCADA TO THE RED SOX

^^^... to everything already noted by all posters....^^^

Indeed the 3 contracts of Tex, Alex, and CC, hell if were NOT lucky, Tanaka could be added to this list of bleeders:

I found this interesting, and should slow down the bosox. In fact, IMO, signing Ramirez, and Sandoval will not work anymore for the Beantown Team, than Carl Crawford, or Adrian Gonzo did. ( I swore when Gonzo was with the Bosox, we were going to see him hit 60 HR's, but......he's a line drive hitter, doesn't lift alot of pitches)......

"Yankees offered $25M with willingness to go to $27M which is same offered Jorge Soler who went to Cubs for $30M," Sherman noted. He went on to compare Moncada's reported deal to Alex Rodriguez's remaining contract: "So with tax, Red Sox will pay $63M to Moncada or about what Yankees owe A-Rod ($61M) for the next 3 yrs."

 

Courtesy of:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...letter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=mlb

"Because he is not yet 23 years old and did not play in a Cuban professional league for at least five seasons, Moncada is subject to MLB's international signing guidelines, under which each team is allotted a $700,000 and an additional bonus pool based on the team's record the previous year to be used during the international signing period. The current period started July 2 and ends on June 15."


"According to those guidelines, clubs are penalized during the upcoming 2015-16 signing period if they exceed their bonus pools by certain amounts. The Red Sox had already exceeded their bonus pool before this signing and been given the maximum penalty. It's a severe measure that includes a 100-percent tax on their pool overages and prohibits them from signing any pool-eligible player for more than $300,000 during the next two signing periods. Including the penalty for exceeding their bonus pool, Moncada's deal will cost the Red Sox approximately $60 million (bonus plus penalty)."


"The Red Sox have until July 15 to pay the overage tax and up to three years to pay out Moncada's bonus."

 

Yanks have something like 110 mil invested in six players this year not including Arod.
Four of those players, Ellsbury, Beltran, Tanaka and McCann are entering their 2nd year of their contracts. They /Yanks did say they weren't going after any of the big ticket free agent pitchers prior to the winter meetings, and they didn't. Yes - it evidently appears to be part of a "plan". Time for these numerous high priced players to put up, or shut up.
Cashman and company just may be showing more prudence and patience than most of us impulsive FANatics.

And the Yanks have a very talented 19-20 yr old SS (Mateo) down in the minors which every team seems to be asking for in proposed trade inquiries.

I'm willing to bite the bullet and see what these players have left in the tank and while we've discussed the pitching staff.....I do expect an injury or two but I also believe this could be one of those years where we will see one,two maybe three farmhands promoted for possibly emergency service with one of them being Severino, possibly Mitchell and Warren could be a sleeper in the equation. I think, and I think the Yankees agree he's better suited as a SP.

 

And from what I'm reading he's not expected to be major league ready for two more years.

 

On top of that, No Team defines their future(s) on the basis of ONE, (to repeat) ONE, single Prospect.

Rather several...........no guarantee, Soler or any other top ranked Prospect, can stay healthy, not blow an arm out, et al.

As a poker player, a word of advice, "Don't be the whole enchilada on One hand", a 2nd word of advice: "Stay in School Kid, and don't drop out"....

 

Interpreting negative success to align with the idea that this was Cashman's plan is pure speculation....being polite about it.
Show me one article where Cashman recapped his off season moves and made cogent sense of all the transactions as a whole.

 

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...just take a look at the players from last year who are no longer with the team and then look at the players that were added this off-season.

Gone; Jeter, Kuroda, Prado, Greene, Phelps, DRob, Cervelli, McCarthy, et al. ====New; Jones, Gregorius, ARod, Miller, Wilson, Eovaldi




...yeah, I've got a nice warm and fuzzy feeling about this year....and I think before the year is over we're gonna miss Greene, Prado, and Cervelli.

 

You may disagree and I'm certainly not giving him an "A"... but he made a deal for a young SS (of course risky like many trades) who the Yanks think has the talent to do well enough to eventually hold the job for a while.

They didn't jump through hoops and raise the payroll approaching 300 mil (for crissakes), and they have every right to expect and/or see what Beltran,Tex, Headley have to offer and there's a very fair chance one or two young farmhand position players could arrive and be ready to contribute.

 

There is more dirty paper trail behind Murdoch that baseball owners would never
allow his regime to take over the NYY. Talk about sacrilege.

Anything Jeter is linked (to) merits a positive move.

 

To play devil's advocate.... What was the point of trading for Sir Didi?

 

An " A"? Did he get an approx. A? Lol! Please tell us how you grade this off season. C-/D+ at best.

 

Whoa easy there sparky, you need to show me where they're anywhere near $300M, Hell there not even close to $250M. I'm guessing they're closer to $200-$210M tops. I'll wait.

 

A Bums Freudian slip? I can't recall the last time the NL West, had 3 teams, going all out to win an Pennant, can you Rick. I mean, I just have NOT seen this kind of spending to buy a NLCS, or even W.S.

Hell, call me old, but last thing I remember of the NL West, was Marichal hitting Roseboro over the head with his bat. As well as the Dick Williams led Padres, in those gawdy unis- trotting out on the field day after day, game upon game, for a RUMBLE.....seems there was some very bad blood b/t L.A. and S.D. in the 80s.

Yet, Frisco and the Bums seem to still have the same discord, since we were both kids, and both teams played in NY still.

Yet, Frisco and L.A. are doing IMO, much better balancing acts, with payrolls, to reduce their overall Team sized payrolls, while letting to of dead weight, or too long of term contracts, when a player will no longer be effective. Good ploy on both S.F. and L.A.s part, yet, I do believe the Padres will still come in a long distant 3rd in the NL West standings....

I'm curious Rick, what's your take? with the NL West that is?

 

With my Giants, Yes they lost Sandoval but, this year the'll have Pagan & Belt for full seasons (Hopefully), There ace Cain will be back & Linecum has reconciled with the man who taught him how to pitch (his father) And he's working with dad in hopes of rediscovering his game. All I can do is hope.

 

Still waiting to see where you come up with a $300M payroll.

 

...how are we better off off with Headley instead of Prado?...how are we better with Miller instead of DRob?...how are we better off with Eovaldi or Capuano instead of Greene?...and how are we better off with Justin Wilson instead of Cervelli?

...all things considered, at best they seem like a wash to me...where's the improvement?

 

...and as far as Moncada, can someone please explain why if the Steins were willing to gamble and spend $27.5 for Moncada, why wouldn't they kick in another $4 Mil?...in that case, they might as well have not bid at all.

 

I was about to post this myself after reading about it this morning. I can't believe a lousy 4M was the difference maker.

 

...yup, $4 Mil freaking dollars, which is less than they spent on Chris f'n Capuano.

...brilliant !

 

Check raise, check raise.....all in....OK we fold. How often to you see that...almost never. You call dumb ass, you already committed your stack.

Daddy must of had all the balls.....either that or the best of George.....you know the rest.