could be an interesting acquisition..help at 1b and DH

Honest mistake and I addressed it in my response to your post about Jones not doing so well lately......and furthermore, to also address that post, I think it might also be safe to say Jones should/could benefit from playing his home games as a hitter with some power playing in a friendly LH hitters park. Don't tell me I'm playing stupid....I'm the one who has been saying the Yankee offense should be considerably better in 2015 and Jones will probably be just another "little" reason why (DH) along with some other reasons.....I didn't forget the Jones acquisition, maybe you did.....I'm not saying he's going to be another Reggie Jackson, but I think he'll help out.

I'll address all replies including if the Yanks win 80-84 games unlike the number I picked...and you can include Arod if he is washed up. And I think you already know I think he could provide production as the RH part of some DH platoon.

Are you sure you READ my posts? I read YOURS.

 

What the hell is wrong with you? When I said "Don't play stupid" it was in response to your asking me in post #13 "What is the purpose of what?" when you knew perfectly well why I was asking.

And I see you've now once again injected your same repeated argument into this thread. Thin ice my friend, be careful.

 

Squeezed and pulled and hurt my neck in 1988.

 

And if we feel more curious:
Lyle Overbay last two seasons....combined,
18 HRs, .238 BA, .307 OBP, .371 slg%, .679 ops

(As Jones' last couple of years were brought up)

 

Jones has more HRs than Overbay the last 2 years partially because he also had about 200 more ABs than Overbay...Jones and Overbay are of the same ilk. They're career mediocre 1Bmen who hit the occasional HR but also strike out too often and are below average defensively.

 

I don't see him staying with the Yankees beyond this year. The last 5 years he's been a full time player averaging almost 150 games & 500 at bats. (19 HRs & 67 RBI while hitting 250) Unless there's an injury he'll be lucky to get 300-350 at bats.

 

Agree. I think he's a free agent after this year.......its going to take some really good things from him and the Yanks for him be here after 2015.

 

...Among 9 qualifying 1Bmen in the NL last year, he was 8th.

...I can't believe the Yanx are paying this guy $5 Mil this year...wait, yes I can.

 

I hear ya........I'll be kind to him and say he isn't going to be the second coming of Paul O'Neill or Tino Martinez. lol

However, although I DO expect Tex to have a better year than last year, he didn't even make the top 10 qualifying A.L. 1b.
Jones is going to be used (IMO) primarily as the LH part of a DH platoon and of course probably a few games at 1b. Beltran and a couple of others will fill most of the ABs vs LHP.

As for Jones' DH role, keep in mind he hits better vs RHP where he'll see most of his action.
Last year when he was facing more LHP than he will this year, he still managed to put up better numbers (with the exception of a couple HRs and TB) than the total accumulated numbers by Yankee DHs who ranked near the bottom in most categories....
12th-TB, 12th- BA, 12th- slg%,
12th-ops, 13th- RBI, 14th- OBP
Consistently BAD.

With Jones doing a lot of the LH part of the DH rotation along with Beltran and a couple
of others from the right side, I think the DH spot will be taken care of.

 

Agreed, I do believe by the end of April, Cash-box will regret trading Prado away. When I saw Prado join the Team last year, I thought: "there may just be hope after all".....

I too, think Headley is and will be a mediocre player, better with his glove, but nothing special with his Bat....

I've been wondering the same, what in the hell is Cash-box thinking, cuz what's comes gurgling out of his mouth, vs His actions, tend to be 2 different things. "Back to the basics of building a solid farm club," yet continuing to sign old worn out Mule in Cappy, (Bums nickname=Crappy); along with anemic Drew, and over paid Headley, or damn near anyone other than Alex will be an improvement.

I'll walk backwards from L.A. to NY, IF Drew can hit .290, cuz it's not gonna' happen.

Last- a offensive output of: (.241 .295 .435 .730) from Jones, IS an improvement over Tex's .216 B'avg, but really doesn't impress me at all. I don't get impressed to much over anyone who hits below .300, tho' I'll take a .290 hitter almost any day. In this case, why is anyone excited because Jones can best Tex's .216 mark. While a .241 B'Avg stinks of desperation....!!!

 

And such ABs will only happen if A-Rod is a total bust.

 

NTM-Jones triple digit yearly strike outs, is anything from getting excited over.......again desperation at its best....!

I bet Cash-box has nightmares over how he wishes HE was Billy Beane...!

 

...I don't think there's any way that Tex doesn't improve over last year but of course he needs to stay healthy....same with Drew because even though he's never been an offensive monster I gotta believe that holding out last year and missing ST hurt him just like it appeared to hurt Kendrys Morales. Drew was abysmal last year offensively and there's no way he'll be that bad this year...I'd be happy with a .250 BA.
...I also see a slight possible uptick for Beltran but he also needs to find a way to stay in the lineup...Gardner has room for improvement as does Ellsbury and McCann.
...I don't see Headley being any better than the numbers he put up with the Yanx last year and that's providing his back doesn't go out on him again...I don't see ARod contributing enough to stay in the line up even if he makes it through ST and is given a roster spot.

...the pitching staff is another subject altogether.

 

You hit the bullseye, and true, the tell all, will all come down to the Team staying Healthy....

I'd love to see Tex return to earlier years form, when he was a threat to be dealt with....I'd be thrilled to see Drew hit .290, but shit yes, I'd be happy as a pig jig to see Drew hit .250; (I know its a knee jerk reaction for me to expect more out of players than reality serves us).....and, I'd be stunned if Drew did a repeat of last year. For quit a while, I've denied Drew's holding out may of cost him last year. The more I think of just that, over time, I could see his hold out as a possible detriment, to His not being ready for prime time.....once his feet hit the ground in NY....

 

When you're already on the bottom as Tex & Drew are there's really no where else to go but up.

 

...pretty much.

 

Last- a offensive output of: (.241 .295 .435 .730) from Jones, IS an improvement over Tex's .216 B'avg, but really doesn't impress me at all. I don't get impressed to much over anyone who hits below .300, tho' I'll take a .290 hitter almost any day. In this case, why is anyone excited because Jones can best Tex's .216 mark. While a.241 B'Avg stinks of desperation....!!!

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But you left out a couple of details.
Jones wasn't brought here to replace Tex.
Do the math, he doesn't play 3b, SS, 2b, C, LF, CF...he'll see some time in RF and occasionally at 1b unless Tex gets injured.

He was brought over basically for DH and more specifically a LH DH and he hits RHP better than LHP and last year he batted .250,.314 obp, .435 slg% and .749 ops vs RHP.
He'll be facing much less LHP as the LH part of the DH rotation/platoon with Beltran (to help keep his legs ect fresh)....maybe Young and a couple of other RH hitters here and there DHing from the right side.


I've already explained my opinion on this Garrett Jones acquisition and why the Yanks accepted him as part of that trade.
And in case you're wondering how this year's DH spot may stack up vs last year's DH crew - here's what we got from the 2014 DH spot:

12th-Total bases, 12th- BA, 12th- slg%,
12th-ops, 13th- RBI, 14th- OBP


Try and pay attention. Sometimes less is more. lol


Oh, before this thing gets nutty, I don't expect Jones to be the second coming of Reggie Jackson..........I've noticed, gotta keep an eye on you....lol

 

I think its great that you have the inside information to know this, especially when most of us are under the opinion that his job here is going to be as much as a back up for Tex as it'll be for a back up at DH.. But like I said, we don't have the MATTER OF FACT knowledge that you have.

 

Its easy Rick- if I can do it so can you. You have to think like a manager and GM and play the cards you're dealt with....or in some cases,including a couple of wrong ones you may have chosen.....and more importantly recognize the good ones as soon as possible.

Tex will be more than a year removed from his wrist surgery and if I'm the MGR and GM I believe it isn't unreasonable to expect him to put up "good" numbers.......27-30 HRs, at least 85-90 RBI, .245-.255 BA (?).
How many games did/do you expect Jones to play 1b? Half the time? One third?
Twice a week? Tex will probably also be a smaller part of the DH rotation/platoon.
I see Jones playing 1b occasionally (? give me a number) when a RHP is starting while Tex gets a bit of a break as the LH DH when the RHP is starting.
Same probably goes for Jones with Beltran although there may be one of the young players also in the RF equation. And don't forget Pirela or Refsnyder (2b,RF)

The Refsnyder kid just might, perhaps, maybe take your mind away from Prado. lol


Of course if Tex starts the season with a three month funk, or gets injured we'll see more of Jones at 1b otherwise Jones gets much more of his at bats as a DH and more specifically the LH DH. It will come down to health and/or
trying to keep Tex and Beltran fresh through the season....but Jones' job (IMO) is DH....preferably a LH DH...and that is how I believe Girardi and Cashman see it.

My opinion, your opinion, its all good....I enjoy it.