The Iran Deal

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    And that's a fact.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    You realize it's "flat" because he increased the budget by $800B right away. Over 4 years, that's $3.2B of money we didn't (and don't still) have. Flat.... Ha ha ha, you made a joke!
     
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    check out all the graphs- read the article afterall.
    fact check on your dedbt still terrible but not as pretty as yours
    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm
     
  4. Denny Crane

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    You are counting the social security surpluses from Reagan onward. That money was spent long ago. The trust fund MUST buy T-Bills by law. Obama nor Bush nor anyone else could change that amount of the debt.

    Debt held by the publisher c is money the government borrows to set on fire, as Obama has.

    Nothing to show for it.

    In other news, in Oklahoma and/or the Dakotas, Walmart pays $15/hr. Guess why? It's 100% contrary to Democratic Party programs.
     
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    http://www.cerescourier.com/section/22/article/5179/

    In Williston, N.D., economists argue the basic minimum wage is $14 because you can't hire anyone for less.The city's unemployment rate is 0.90 percent (that's not a misprint) thanks to it being located in the heart of the shale oil boom.

    Walmart in Williston advertises the low-end cashier's job for $17.40 an hour and they still struggle to fill them.
     
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    Damn I was going to go with historical oil boom driving local economies.
     
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    total public is t
    jlprk is right you cant help hijacking a pro democratic thread only turn it into a rant against Obama. try engaging on the topic and try keeping it topical
     
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    Clinton ran surpluses and the national debt went up.

    Once you wrap your head around that, and why, you will see your folly.
     
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    This thread sure jumped the rails.
     
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    It jumped the rails, leapt into the river, swam downstream to the ocean, through the Panama Canal, up to Cape Kennedy, got in a rocketship, and blasted off for Uranus.

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    http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/hotproperty/archives/2008/02/clintons_drive.html

    Democrats and their do good caused the problems. Look to Clinton, Christ Dodd, Barney Frank and their Home ownership for all policies. Actually it is not right to call them policies as that
    would lend some legitimacy. These people should have known better, reading Secrets of the Temple would be a good start. Bush didn't change it so he too has some responsibility although
    Jack Kemp tried to make some corrections, but Dems ran the congress, so down the tube we went with the Coriolis effect clearly visible. Obama today has no fucking clue what happened.
    He would do it again if he could out of rank ignorance. About 2005, I was asking self, how the hell does this work?? Ha! It don't!

    When you run your economy with fiat money you must maintain a reasonably stable valued currency or you will get what you sow. Of course, combining Commercial banks with FDIC protected
    consummer banks insures a faulter will result in a complete disater with the tax payer on the hook. That is Capitalism for profit, socialism for loss. And the Dems haven't got a clue what they do.

    You can't have a Federal reserve responsible for maintaining the dollar and Democrats shucking out dollars by the bushel to lock up voters. Well I guess you can until the shit hits the fan
    and then blame the Pubs. (like most of this board does).

    Zero Down pay later! Man that is passing out cookies with wheelbarrow gathering up votes with each handful.

    This is the classic example of the voters getting what they deserve out of sheer ignorance.
     
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    We might survive the stuff the Dems do to us regarding the finances of the Nation, but I would rather they stick with shucking out dollars. I have zero confidence in them to negotiate a deal
    that will protect us from Nuclear attack by a Nation with the stated goal of Death to America.
     
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    If I've told the voters once, I've told them a thousand times: Don't run with scissors!

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    Good catch. What else did you catch? The Title maybe.
     
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    So here's a thought about the Iran deal.

    The damage being done by Iran isn't their nuclear program, it's the support of surrogate terrorist groups like Hezzbolah, Hamas, and even Al Qaeda. They have their hands in all sorts of violence from Iraq and Afghanistan to Africa.

    So eliminating the sanctions gives us what pressure to get them to stop?
     
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    Eliminating the sanctions frees up billions to finance their terrorist activities.
    We don't need an agreement with them nor do we need to go to war today. Any additional sanctions that can be applied would be appropriate until they stop supporting terrorist groups.
    Time is on our side assuming we do have sufficient intelligence to gage where they are in the nuclear program. Take it out just before they fuse the bomb.
    Who knows, leadership does change and people sometimes change their leadership.

    It is very strange that we have no actual detail on what the agreement is we are about to make, so in that sense, Obama is just as bad as any dictator in history.
    If he attempt to stick us with an agreement that we don't need without the advice and consent of the Senate, he is indeed a dictator. This attempt should alarm every American,
    of any persuasion.

    I don't know what is in the agreement, just speculation, but nothing about stopping any terrorist activity, nothing about getting the American Marine out of Iran. Only that we lift the sanctions. Why?
     
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    Is the question why do people speculate, or is the question why do you believe the speculation?

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    we lift the sanctions deserves a Why? But now that you ask, Why is Obama selling to the world instead of the American people?
     

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