Robert Kennedy Jr. Compares Vaccine Debate To Holocaust

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I see an agenda in one case, and it's plenty obvious.

    I don't see the agenda for those supporting vaccines. Plus the results are measurable, not hypothetical results of bullshit computer models.

    I never said all science is wrong. On that, YOU are (as usual) wrong.
     
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    What a piece of crap comeback!
    C'mon Denny, he never said that you said "All Science is Wrong". He said you think the scientist are lying and that the science is wrong concerning Global Warming. You even say in the line before that you see an "Agenda".
    Try to stay on topic here. You did the same thing yesterday on another thread.
    Losing all respect for the way you are conducting yourself on here.
    It's pitiful! You are smarter than that and again it's an insult to some pretty sharp people on here.
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    No he says I think the scientists are wrong about vaccines being harmful.

    I think the science is right about a lot of things. I've said so plenty of times.

    So barfo' two posts are simply full of shit.
     
  4. barfo

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    Nope, didn't say that.

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  5. Denny Crane

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    Backpedal. Fine.
     
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    Nope, just didn't say that. No backpedaling needed, the posts are right there for you to reread.

    barfo
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I did.

    Your first post was just silly.

    When a RFK Jr or Gore hawks "science," idiot democrats will believe it. Apparently MARIS61, too.

    Both Gore and his royal highness RFK are wrong on the science.
     
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    You knew I would start reading the thread here. Why did you make the obvious denial of the nonobvious?

    Both political parties are right. Let them both do what they want.

    The California state legislature should amend the law: Democrats are required to be vaccinated against horrible diseases. Republicans aren't allowed to be vaccinated.
     
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    Even if they somehow passed the laws like you suggest, Democrats would get all the diseases anyway.
     
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    That is fucking priceless!
    Maybe there is a way to get the republicans to move to China where they can hire lots of cheap labor and there isn't any Global Warming. They can cut down as many trees as they can find and run their coal burning power plants. Oh yeah? There isn't any trees there. Never mind.
     
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    We didn't have global warming until we started using vaccines. Obviously vaccines cause global warming.
     
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    This thread had no numbers. I wondered:
    In units of both children and % difference, what are the numbers for

    children vaccinated who got the disease
    children vaccinated who didn't get the disease
    children not vaccinated who got the disease
    children not vaccinated who didn't get the disease
    children vaccinated who got a little sick after the vaccine
    children vaccinated who got badly sick after the vaccine

    Then I saw Maris' post. Here is the part which is relevant to my questions.

    The most common way to measure prevalence differences is through a calculation known as relative risk or the Risk Ratio, where we compared prevalence amongst unvaccinated children to prevalence amongst vaccinated children. So, if 5% of unvaccinated children have asthma, and 10% of vaccinated children have asthma, that represents an "RR" of 2.0 (10%/5%), or a difference of 100%.

    boys represent approximately 80% of total cases of NDs. Namely:
    All vaccinated boys, compared to unvaccinated boys:
    - Vaccinated boys were 155% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.55)
    - Vaccinated boys were 224% more likely to have ADHD (RR 3.24)
    - Vaccinated boys were 61% more likely to have autism (RR 1.61)

    Older vaccinated boys, ages 11-17 (about half the boys surveyed), compared to older unvaccinated boys:
    - Vaccinated boys were 158% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.58)
    - Vaccinated boys were 317% more likely to have ADHD (RR 4.17)
    - Vaccinated boys were 112% more likely to have autism (RR 2.12)
    (Note: older children may be a more reliable indicator because many children are not diagnosed until they are 6-8 years old, and we captured data beginning at age 4.)

    All vaccinated boys, removing one county with unusual results (Multnomah, OR), compared to unvaccinated boys:
    - Vaccinated boys were 185% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.85)
    - Vaccinated boys were 279% more likely to have ADHD (RR 3.79)
    - Vaccinated boys were 146% more likely to have autism (RR 2.46)

    All vaccinated boys and girls, compared to unvaccinated boys and girls:
    - Vaccinated boys and girls were 120% more likely to have asthma (RR 2.20)
    - No correlation established for juvenile diabetes

    All vaccinated girls, compared to unvaccinated girls:
    - No meaningful differences in prevalence were noted for NDs (which may be due to the smaller sample size of the study because girls represent about 20% of cases.)

    Generation Rescue is not representing that our study proves that the U.S. vaccine schedule has caused an epidemic in neurological disorders amongst our children. We are a small non-profit organization. For less than $200,000, we were able to complete a study that the CDC, with an $8 billion a year budget, has been unable or unwilling to do.

    In 1983, the Centers for Disease Control ("CDC") recommended a total of 10 vaccines for our children up to the age of 5. In 2007, the CDC recommends 36, an increase of 260%, or 3.6x...Boys are significantly more affected by NDs, accounting for approximately 80% of all cases. Unfortunately, the mainstream media still misreports that the explosive growth in NDs is the results of "better diagnosis" despite the considerable published scientific research to refute this position...No studies have ever been done to compare ND rates of children who received vaccines with those who received no vaccines, which is what our survey accomplished. The glaring absence of a study to compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children for ND rates caused Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) to introduce this bill to compel the National Institutes of Health to do such a study.
     
  13. barfo

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    heh heh.

    barfo
     
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    No, unfortunately my knowledge of the horrific consequences of vaccine side-effects are firsthand having almost died as a child from Stevens-Johnson syndrome contracted from vaccines.

    I'm not saying they're bad for everyone, but it's also a lie to say they're the best option for everyone.

    The reality is the safety of their use varies in every individual case. It's a crap shoot.

    Our kids had all the vaccines, with no apparent side effects.
     
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    It's a crap shoot where the odds are 99.99999% in favor of eliminating the diseases the vaccines are for.
     

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