Well, Obama was supposedly born in 1961. I'l grant that he probably was. However, if he was born in 1959 in the sandwich isles (hawaii), it wasn't a state back then. Whether in that case he's eligible to be president, or a citizen, might be an interesting question.
I showed you where in the constitution it talked about power to set up naturalization (and not). I don't think it says anything about ObamaCare in there.
Residency was the question for determining citizenship of the son of someone who has not been given citizenship. Who establishes the rules was not in question. The question was about being a resident while here. If the child would still be a natural citizen. This comes into play when talking about Mitt Romney as well as Marco Rubio.
No, it doesn't. That's been my point for the two threads this discussion has consumed, thanks for finally agreeing. Sorry, that's not the original definition of residency. You have to look to the founders intent, I've heard. Quit trampling the constitution, MarAzul! There are also lots of other laws now, which make your 'his father was never a resident' argment pointless, as it depends on stopping time in 1800. Pretty sure Obama Sr. was not here illegally. barfo
Yes, you did. And I pointed out that it wasn't relevant to the discussion. So then you bring up Obamacare. Nice trolling. barfo
Not trolling, pointing out you seem to not know what is in the constitution, but you'd wipe your ass with it.
It's not irrelevant. I was curious what you do think is in the constitution. The things you advocate aren't.
Back to our regularly scheduled programming - Almost all national Republican candidates these days skew far too right for my taste (for most folks' taste). They also are very unlikable. Mitt seems like a genuinely good guy, but his pandering to the right was pathetic and transparent. Ted Cruz seems like a whack job. Chris Christie is a bully. McCain is a grumpy old man. Jeb - meh. Rubio is the best of the bunch - too bad he is too reasonable on immigration for the right. He would give Hillary a run for her money.
Rubio and Bush are from Florida. His entrance into the race will make it tougher for Bush to take Florida, obviously. I'm not sure hard right is that much worse than hard left, if at all. If the republican can not act like a clown, he or she might have a better chance than you'd think. Republican voters may want to win the election more. Hillary is a polarizing figure, even among democrats. I really don't like any of the republican candidates, but if I had a gun to my head, I'd vote for Paul.
Watching the Right dancing on the head of a pin, to discuss rules not allowing presidential candidates to run...It sure was simple about Obama, but strangely complicated when it comes to Republican candidates.
It seems to me Rubio doesn't have a realistic path to the Presidency. My guess is he's shooting to be the VP nominee.
I could see that, honestly it should come down to Paul, Walker and Kasich with Rubio as the VP. God forbid Bush get the nomination.
If it's Clinton/Bush for the Presidency, I will write in a ham sandwich before I vote for either one.
Exactly boogymen. But... No more than Warren Buffett or George Soros or Spielberg or Geffen or Bloomberg, etc.
