Doomsday scenarios this offseason

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Why would the 76ers do that?

    Why would any team take either of those players (Diaw or Splitter), even with a late 1st round pick?

    Teams with cap space don't normally take players on who are well past their prime or have years left on their deal.

    Btw, if you look at the 76ers salary roster on hoopshype, they have something like 30 players listed.
     
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    Draco Well-Known Member

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    Teams do that all the time. Utah did it two summers ago taking Biedrins and Richard Jefferson so the Warriors could sign Iggy. 6ers did it at the trade deadline acquiring Jamall McGee $13 million dollar contract. Splitter was great in the playoffs last year and will have value when healthy so he would be an asset for those teams. It makes sense for Spurs to ditch him when they can sign an even better asset. 6ers won't sign veterans with cap space they want draft picks or assets such as Splitter they can possibly trade for more at a later time.
     
  3. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    for starters, that was part of a larger set of deals, and Utah took back a few picks too (and sent out a player). I also believe that the contracts for Jefferson and Biedrins (along with Brandon Rush) were ending contracts.

    Of which Diaw and Splitter aren't.

    Here's the trade, for those curious:

    July 10, 2013: As part of a 3-team trade, (Jefferson) traded by the Golden State Warriors with Andris Biedrins, Brandon Rush, a 2014 1st round draft pick, a 2016 2nd round draft pick, a 2017 1st round draft pick and a 2017 2nd round draft pick to the Utah Jazz;

    the Denver Nuggets traded Andre Iguodala to the Golden State Warriors;

    the Denver Nuggets traded cash and a 2018 2nd round draft pick to the Utah Jazz;


    the Golden State Warriors traded a 2018 2nd round draft pick to the Denver Nuggets;

    the Utah Jazz traded Randy Foye to the Denver Nuggets; and the Utah Jazz traded Kevin Murphy to the Golden State Warriors.


    Utah took back two 1st round picks and 3 second round picks too.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Exactly the point I was trying to make as well. There is absolutely zero incentive for a rebuild team to bring in contracts like splitter or diaw. It makes absolutely zero sense.

    This is the bargain year. The year where teams can find a young player and sign them multi year before the big contracts come in. No team is going to give up cap space this summer unless they are bringing a player of substantial potential or in the middle of their prime.
     
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    Doomsday scenario: LA, Wes, AA, RoLo and Freeland all leave without compensation. Batum demands trade.
     
  6. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    And then Damian demands a trade.
     
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    Some on here were talking about a cap hold being a big hit. In this case they should try to get players signed before Aldridge. People ask why does the cap hold continue to hit against the teams salary?
    "It closes a loophole. Teams otherwise would be able to sign other teams' free agents using their cap room, and then turn their attention to their own free agents using the Bird exception. This rule restricts their ability to do that. It uses the player's current status (type of free agent, whether coming off a rookie contract, and previous salary) as a rough guideline to predict the amount the player is likely to receive in his next contract, and sets that amount aside in the form of a cap hold. But while it functions as a rough guideline, it's obviously not perfect -- for example, in 2005 Michael Redd's free agent amount was just $6 million, even though the Bucks intended to re-sign him for the maximum salary. By waiting to sign Redd last, the Bucks were able to take advantage of the difference by signing Bobby Simmons. Had they signed Redd first, they would not have had enough cap room to sign Simmons."
    Source...http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q40
     
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  8. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think there's a difference in re-signing your own FA's (Wesley, Rolo, Afflalo and LaMarcus) and signing other teams FA's using your "cap space" (in relation to cap holds, etc).
     
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    AND then BDSF94 gives up on life.
     
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    Somebody please explain why the Blazers owe Diante Garrett a million bucks?
     
  11. BonesJones

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    his cap hold is 150% of his previous salary up to the max contact available. So they wouldnt have more cap space before they sign him.
     
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    I think the Lamarcus deal will happen really quickly
     
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    Doomsday scenario? Hmm....An asteroid the size of Texas and shaped like Popovich slams into the Rose Quarter.
     
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    The team stays the same. Jump shooting team with no defense that is just good enough to get some people excited but not goid enough to be taken seriously.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    that would be disheartening.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So, you're a fan of mediocrity, this should be right down your alley.
     
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    You need to work on the snark if you want to approach mediocre man stature.
     
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    I don't see how people think that a team wouldn't take on Splitter if given incentive. With no incentive I think there'd still be plenty of teams if they had the space to snag for free a C making 16.75 over the next 2 years. That's not a TON of money, for a good starting C.
     
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    I think the Pelicans would salivate at the chance of getting Splitter, same for the Clippers if they lose Jordan.
     
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    If it wasn't for us losing Aldridge because of it, I'd absolutely take him for free as well.
     

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