Hey TB that doesn't work against the Blackhawks

Typical Callahan missing a breakaway that could have iced the game

 

Difference between the Hawks and the rest of the teams in the NHL. Drafting. Look at some of the jackasses picked ahead of Teravainen who they took 18th. Same with Saad who they took in the second round. That's what I'm trying get into Chucks think skull. Last time Chicago didn't have a 1st round pick was the mid 1990's. To be fair, they have missed on quite a few of those picks. But they always seem to hit on those one or two who seem to be these great playoff players for them. Saad and Teravainen are starting to head in that direction. That is why you keep your high picks. You don't sell them like ho's in an alley like Sather is doing lately.

 

Come on dump they could have all the Saads and Teravainens they want, they would be nowhere without Kane and Toews which were both top 2 picks. You used to kill teams that tanked like that why are you all of a sudden sucking them off?

 

I agree Prod. They still won first and foremost because the tanked. However, they keep their picks while contending and they hit on some guys that help them win those cups. Two players with no supporting cast isn't going to win multiple cups. Look at Pitt. They got one cup and have been a non factor with Malkin and Crosby because they can't draft. The supporting cast around those guys is crap now. You have to give the Hawks credit. Yeah, they tanked seasons but they built a talented supporting cast around them. Look at the Islanders and Oilers. They have sucked for years after tanking. Just now the Islanders have gotten good. It took forever.

 

Yes agreed, but it's difficult to compare us to the Hawks which is what youre trying to do in your original post. The better comparison to judge the Hawks is to the Isles Pens and Oilers like you did in your second post, teams with multiple top picks who can't get it together because of bad depth drafting. In our situation, we haven't had top picks. The only way we could get that kind of top end talent here is to part with some first rounders. The Hawks can afford to keep those late first rounders as they already have their top talent from sucking so badly. We didnt have that luxury. Now we can debate that we've used our first rounders in the wrong kinds of deals (St.Louis etc), but if we don't make those deals we don't have the top end talent necessary in the league these days.

 

The point I was making was the Hawks trade off guys, always keep their picks while still going for it every year. They constantly are building their farm. Sather the past 2 years has just lost his mind, deciding to make these moves where he gives up all our picks and prospects to go for it now. It's dumb and isn't necessary. You can go for it without dealing your first and second round picks. The Hawks are proof of that.

 

Chuck and Al can't grasp that. You don't sell off your future to the level Sather has to go for it. It's moronic. The only hope I see the team having now is deals involving the likes of Nash, Talbot, Yandle and Hagelin. Players they could bring back an NHL player for plus either picks or prospects. The development of Talbot might be able to bail Sather out of some of his recent stupidity. They probably can get at least a 2nd and a good, young NHL ready prospect or good NHL role player for him.

 

Stop trying to talk sense into him Prod, he is like a little kid with a toy, you know that. This is now his focus, so he will beat that to death.

He LOVED the Yandle trade. He LOVED the Nash trade. Now he's like OMG how do you deal away the future. Those are the kinds or trades you don't make. Al and Chuck and Sather are dumb...LOL. Really all you can do is smile. Like dealing with a 6 year old, same thing...LOL.

He HATED the way the Hawks operated to get Toews and Kane, now they are his model. BTW dump the Hawks dealt a 1st for Vermette AND a 2nd...yes a crazy 2nd rounder...for Timonen.

Our system was awesome. All these idiots had no clue and hated NY, that's why we were rated near the bottom. Now overnight the system is awful and Sather and Chuck and Al are idiots...LOL.

You need to remember the source, but more importantly remember that dump is on the 73 year plan. Always need to build for tomorrow. Today never comes, but tomorrow sure looks great...LOL.

 

Chuck is like the compulsive gambler or drinking when it comes to building a team. Nothing in moderation.

 

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First it was Genoway, then it was Immonen, Heilmen and Baranka (none any closer to the NHL than I am) then it was Dawes and now Duclair, all these toys Dump gushes over that the Rangers either fuck over or ruin or something like that.

The only person I know that would say fuck I rather the big club NOT make the finals but instead build a great AHL team so we can have a promising future.

Mikhail Yakubov
Pavel Vorobiev
Adam Munro
Anton Babchuk


All 1st round picks by the Hawks in the early 2000's

Then
Brent Seabrook (14th overall)
Cam Barker (3rd overall)
The famous Jack Skille (7th overall)
Jonathan Toews (3rd overall)
Patrick Kane (1st overall)
Kyle Beach (11th overall)

The hit on 2 great players all drafted in the top half of the draft.
We are trading picks in the late 20's because we don't have top 5 picks....There is a huge difference in talent between the 1st overall pick and the 24th don't you think. So yeah...have to give something to get something.

You weren't bitching when they traded Gomez to get McD who was a 1st round pick right...or signing Kevin Hayes another 1st round pick.

 

There is a time and place when you have to...not when you have one of the worlds best goalies in his prime

 

Ok but you cant bitch and moan after you make those trades to say well we shouldn't be giving up the farm...you cant have it both ways...there is a point in time when all these middle to late picks just don't cut it against higher end talent which we do not get out of the draft

 

you can get away with an average to above average goalie when you have number 1 picks on your roster NOT NAMED NASH