Notice Trading Batum makes sense

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  1. blue9

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    In G1 of the Finals SVG said something that I think bears repeating: [paraphrasing] Everybody says if these guys could just be more consistent... But that's the thing, that's what makes guys like LBJ special. They're consistent. If you could be consistent you'd by like them, but you can't.

    So when you're bagging on Nic for not being consistent, you're bagging on him for not being LBJ. Because if he was able to play at his best every single night, that's exactly the type of player he'd be. We should be blessed that we have a player like that as our "glue guy" and 4th/5th offensive option.
     
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    When was the last time Batum had 25 points, 7 rebounds, and 6 assists in a game??? That's what Lebron AVERAGES, and Nic has had maybe 1 or 2 better games in his career...So no, if Batum was as consistent as Lebron, he still wouldn't be Lebron. That's like saying if I had Kyrie's handles, that I'd be as good as Kyrie. That is such a far stretch.
    You essentially assume that consistency is all that matters. So you're saying to disregard the fact that Lebron is so much more talented than Batum, because the only reason Batum is worse because he's not as consistent... hah
    Nic is one of the most inconsistent players in the league.. that's why people want him gone, because if it was ever going to change, it would've changed by now
     
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    dating if you had Kyrie's handles? wow dude..what are you talking about?
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    *saying. My phone loves to say random shit haha. I'm sure you could've figured it out. Then again with my smile and Kyrie's handles, I'd be dating dimepieces:ghoti:
    ...So I guess I see your confusion.
     
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    Wow, the point of SVG's statement went completely over your head.
     
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    This is a verifiable statement. What are the variances (or stdevs) in his points, rebounds, and assists? What are those numbers for all small forwards, what's league average? I'd actually like to know. Anyone?
     
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    You're not making sense....
     
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    I don't know the answer to those questions, but...

    In looking just at FG% Nic is no worse than our #1 offensive option. (Of course I'm using Nic's 13/14 season, because there's no getting around just how bad he was this year - which I believe to be an anomaly until it becomes more.)

    During the 13/14 season Nic’s FG% breaks out in the following manner:

    Great – 14.63% (12 games)
    Good – 31.71% (26 games)
    Average – 28.05% (23 games)
    Bad – 15.85% (13 games)
    Terrible – 9.76% (8 games)

    I’ve defined these categories in simple 10% blocks:

    Great = 60%+
    Good = 50-59.9%
    Average = 40-49.9%
    Bad = 30-39.9%
    Terrible = <30%

    Using the same criteria (ignoring the fact that PFs should have a higher FG% than wings), LMA’s FG% this past season breaks out as follows:

    Great – 15.49% (11 games)
    Good – 29.58% (21 games)
    Average – 25.35% (18 games)
    Bad – 25.35% (18 games)
    Terrible – 4.23% (3 games)

    For every great game LMA has 2 bad/terrible games, and for every good game he has an average game. This is our #1 scoring option. And yet Nic – our 4th/5th scoring option – is the one who is labeled as the problem despite having nearly identical swings in FG% as our “best” player.
     
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    He doesn't like Noah's hair... And Paul Pierce is a certifiable asshole. Not a nice guy at all.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    It's not about his hair. It's about him being a douche nozzle. I didn't think it possible, but he's an even bigger douche than his father...
     
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    I'm sorry, I've been to Cleveland and this shit is HILARIOUS:

     
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    They aren't changing it nor should they, Hit your goddamn freethrows. You see they don't hack a Griffin anymore.
     
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    So you are the one person who went on vacation to Cleveland?
     
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    Lol no! Haha! On business.
     
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    they said they won't right after I posted..
     
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    the fact is nobody pays attention to Nic.. while Aldridge is #1 on the scouting report. Theres so much more that goes into it than FG%.
     
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    you're talking about getting a center that can make shots from 10 feet... DeAndre's athletic enough that he's dunking from there
     
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    The fact is, nobody pays attention to LMA unless he's within 15' of the hoop - which is seldom. Teams double Lillard and let LMA have WIDE OPEN jumpers from 18' every single time we run the pick/pop.
    And the fact remains that LMA's no more consistent than Nic when it comes to shooting the ball - one great game, two bad games.
    Yes, there's A LOT more to basketball than FG%. But it seems most people peg Nic as "inconsistent" when it comes to scoring, yet he's no more inconsistent at it than LMA.
     
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    And Batum provides a lot more than (inconsistent) scoring. Just as there is more to the game than FG%, there is more to team basketball than who takes, and makes, the shots.
     
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    We don't need consistent stat lines from Nic. We need consistent effort, and consistent adjustments to his focus depending on what's going on in the game. He's a fill-in-the-cracks guy, and he's really good at it.
     
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