If San Antonio is our biggest competition for LA

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  1. Pinwheel1

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    The only way we get Kawhi is if the Spurs are not willing to give him a max deal. And if the rumors are true...they are. I guess it is possible it could be a smoke screen so no one else ties up money on him, but my gut is it is true.

    So we may need to turn our attention to another SF. ( Tobias Harris?)
     
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    There's a wrinkle in the Leonard Max QO possibility. If the Spurs are looking to free up cap space to sign LMA outright or take back a lopsided trade, making the Max QO offer would add roughly $9M to Leonard's cap hold; and same if he signs a Max contract.
     
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    So what are you saying? What is the most most likely move by them in regards to Kawhi?
     
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    So wouldn't that mean they wouldn't have the same advantage as Chicago?
     
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    I've not seen news that they've made the max QO offer. If they want cap space to sign a max FA, they can't do the max QO. At least that's how I figure it.

    I think they'd do the max QO and then worry about cap space by trading guys for cap space.
     
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    It means someone could offer him any sort of deal that's legit under the CBA and the Spurs would have 3 days to match.

    If Leonard wants to stay, he'll sign with the Spurs. His cap hold is roughly $7M until he signs.
     
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    You said in a previous thread, that because Chicago signed the Max qualifying offer, Chicago can offer one more year and force other teams to min 3 year offers. It would also give Chicago the ability to offer more per year than any other team.

    Did I get that wrong?
     
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    That's right. The Bulls are over the cap, so they aren't thinking about how much cap room they can get.
     
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    I know we keep asking the same questions over and over, but.............
    Can Portland offer Kawhi and LMA max deals at the same time if they renounce everyone else?
     
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    I think so.
     
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    I dont see why not, they have 40M in cap space
     
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    So if SAS didn't sign max QO, they don't have the same advantages right?
     
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    Like 3 years, with player option for the third year max?
     
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    2 years option after 1.

    I misspoke, the Spurs would have 15 days to match. That's a long time for a cap hold for the team making the offer, too.
     
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    Even better! That's a good risk to take IMO. We would still have $10 mil to use for another free agent, while still keeping the cap hold of LMA
     
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    There's no guarantee Leonard signs any offer from another team. He can get a MAX contract from the Spurs. The Spurs can wait until using all their cap space and whatnot and sign him even if they're over the cap (Bird Rights).
     
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    And it doesn't hurt to try right? If he says no, he says no. We can move on to other players
     
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    Tell Olshey what you think he should do :)
     
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    And let's not forget how "waiting it out" helped Houston last summer.
     
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