OKC matches on Kanter

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  1. oldfisherman

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    Agree with Mag661, Kanter will be harder to trade.

    However, the Thunder offer to Kanter of $15.5 has been reported many times, just not locally. Not sure why?
     
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    As I said, we are in asset acquisition mode. But we had room to offer a deal to KJ that Houston couldn't match despite the Kanter offer, so I'm curious to see what happens. Plus I can see NO not wanting to end up left alone at the altar again. How many times can you go through that in one offseason?
     
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    I guess you missed the part where Woj says they offered $64mil to Kanter? Aka $15.5mil per season. And $13.5mil was widely reported.
     
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    Houstons over the cap. I think they have their MLE but they have no bird rights in McDaniels. So if Neil offers him just a little over the MLE ($6M), I believe Houston would be unable to match.
     
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    That's why I don't know that we're interested. If we were, we could have made the offer even if Kanter on the table. Then we make the deal for Harkless. We are trying to build a roster, and KJ makes a lot of sense, but some recent items speak against offering KJ.
     
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    I saw Woj claim 62 million range. He didn't say if it was 4 or 5 years. If it was 5, then it would 12.5
     
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    Other writers also said $15.5mil per season, and that was after a widely-publicized $54mil/4 offer ($13.5 mil per season). They wouldn't decrease the offer at that point. That makes zero sense.
     
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    13.5 is still 4 million less THIS year before the cap goes up again. He can't be jumping up and down about that.
     
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    No way of knowing right now. Nothing says it has to be right now. I could see going to camp with what we have now and waiting for something good to come up before the deadline.
     
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    I agree. No idea why people are in such a hurry to fill that cap space. Wait until a team that thinks they are good, ends up sucking and realizing they don't want to pay that much to suck. That's when we need to make a move and acquire picks for taking a player or two from them
     
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    Again, you're missing the point. They offered that, then $64mil, which would imply over 4 years, so $15.5mil per season. What's $2mil per season? Nothing. Apparently, OKC agrees, which is why they matched, as anyone with basic understanding of the NBA saw coming.
     
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    If the deal from OKC would have ended up being more in the long run for Kanter, and everyone in the NBA saw it coming, including Kanter's agent, then why did he sign our deal? Why did he not take OKC's?
     
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    I'm sorry. I don't really get your point or your gibberish at this point. Do you have a point? Basically, OKC and Kanter were at a standstill. PDX was trying to make a move. Kanter was eventually going to get the max. He liked PDX enough to agree to a max deal to get things moving, knowing its likely get OKC to match (which they saved a couple mil by doing, as opposed to offering themselves). If you've offered a 23-year old potential-star $15.5 mil, and he balks and wants max, which is $2mil per season more, are you going to blink at that extra amount? You know you're going to max it out eventually. You just wait for a team to say, "OK, I'll bite." That's where Portland came in and said they'd take a chance.

    But OKC knew they'd eventually have to just offer the max. We just expedited the process and saved them money. They were very clear from day one they'd match. Anyone that didn't believe was working on their own personal belief system that was way off base.
     
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    The Gilbert Arenas provision prevents us from offering a contract starting higher than MLE. We can offer a large raise in year three, but Houston can still use their MLE to match.
     
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    Would have been an awesome mish mesh of players this season! I leaned both ways on this but now that it's over I'm still excited with all we scooped up in the last 2 weeks!
     
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    Agreed. Lotta players added for little. Lotta potential. I suspect a player or two will really step up this season, and it'll take a season or two for another couple to develop. It's a real rebuild. But I like the guys we currently have for the rebuild.
     
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    We dodged the bullet on Turkey-Glue, and to a lesser extent on Hibbert. Kanter has a good chance of being #3 in the hall of shame. It all worked out for the best.
     
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