Miller signs qualifier

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  1. theProdigy223

    theProdigy223 Well-Known Member

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    1 year, 874k.

    This is frustrating as hell. Next year Miller, Etem and Kreider will all be arb. eligible, plus Hayes and Yandle needing new contracts. We didnt have the space to get Miller on, say, a 2 year bridge worth 1.3 or so. Now next year we have all these contracts coming up, all of which will be due significant raises.

    All we had to do was trade out one salary and we could have had the space to sign Miller to a bridge. We've gone through the candidates so no need to beat that horse anymore. But now next year we're looking at a catastrophe to try to get all these guys coming off cheap deals signed. This is awful, awful management.

    Fast in at 2 years, 950k per. At least one guy wont need to be resigned against next year.
     
  2. Ranger71

    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    Boyle will be gone next year and Skjei in his spot so that's 4m saved there which will help.
     
  3. theProdigy223

    theProdigy223 Well-Known Member

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    Well yeah, but Yandle will take most of that himself considering his hit on our books is only 2.6 right now. And if Skjei is on the team his hit is .925, meaning we save only about 3.5 subbing him for Boyle. Which as I said will likely go to Yandle. It's a mess.
     
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    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah true, and hopefully they do keep Yandle. They'll find a way with the others, there just might not be much space leftover. Buchnevich will be pushing for a spot too.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Won't Hayes get a qualifying offer next year?
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Boyle and Moore will be off the books next year
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    The f'n idiots should find somebody to take Glass and his 1.45 salary. Moore, Stalberg, Boyle, Yandle, Diaz and Raanta will be gone next year. That's 11.6 free. I figure 9 to sign Kreider and Hayes. Sadly, the stupid bastards will lose Yandle for nothing because they are dumb. Next year is probably the year either Nash or Stepan gets dealt. That will solve the cap problem.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Hayes isn't an RFA that Gorton will sign to a bridge deal?
     
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    I think Kreider/Hayes will total around 7 tops(Kreider 4m/Hayes 2-3). I think Yandle re-signing is a solid possibility, as he seems to like NY and the guys around him, plus a team that's got a legit chance to win for the next 3-4 years. I'd love to see Eric Staal here, but that might require dealing off Stepan, which would be ok imo. Staal is the better player and adds more.
     
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    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Trade out a salary and do what? Magically have nothing come back on the books in return? We've heard this sky is falling routine regarding contracts for how many years now? You have no idea about the coming season, cap increases, future trades or anything. Throwing a fit over such unknown is pointless.
     
  11. theProdigy223

    theProdigy223 Well-Known Member

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    Christ dude, when did you turn into such a miserable dickhead? You asked me in another thread what I would do and I posted it. Nobody is throwing a fit, I'm observing how many expiring cheap contracts we have coming up. You on the other hand have contributed zero to this board over the past few months besides criticizing people trying to discuss the team so do us all a favor and pound sand.
     
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    You're out of your mind if you think Kreider till take 4 and Hayes 2-3. Kreider most likely will start at 6 y, 36 million. Hayes if he puts up 50 points which is possible is probably going to ask for 4 years, 4.5. Hagelin who sucks offensively compared to Kreider will get almost 4. Kreider does a lot offensively for the team by standing in front of the other teams net.
     
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    I think you are worrying a bit too much Prod. If McIlrath sticks on the team, it will help the cap out big because next year Skjei will make the team. So you are looking at Yandle and Boyle replaced by cheap guys so you are saving about 4.5 million with the difference in the players salaries.

    However, as I said above. They are going to need Buchnevich to really be something dangerous on offense. To me they have to deal either Stepan or Nash next year. Unless they can get Staal or Girardi to accept a deal. That is why trading Yandle makes so much sense. They could get back a young, dangerous, offensive NHL ready forward which would make losing Stepan or Nash not as bad. If I had to choose between the two. I'd give up Nash. Stepan despite being a greedy dickhead is 24. He's a right shot and a playmaker that could develop a young wing.

    I would have to think the Rangers plan going forward is this. We have three, young, playmaking centers that can score 20 goals. Those centers can continue to develop young wings with offensive talent. So, save salary on wings like Nash by dealing them. That is why they got Etem. They are confident their centers can develop him. That is probably why I might consider moving Tambellini to wing. If they intend on keeping Brassard, Hayes and Stepan at center, they have to move him. Personally, I think Stepan should be a wing. Hayes can get better on draws because of his size and strength. Stepan just sucks ass on draws and it is obvious he will never get better. He's clueless. However, I'm pretty sure the Rangers don't see it that way.
     
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    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Ok, so now you're going to throw a fit and make it personal with me because you clearly can't take criticism. Do yourself a favor. Grow the hell up.
     
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    Welcome to the NHL cap situation for all teams not just us. That is why you have a limited window to win the cup. Again, no matter how well you manage the cap it is too low and too restrictive to keep a team together for more than a few seasons. That is also why not winning a cup over this recent stretch is tough because we will lose some players, and it started with Hags.

    This upcoming season is huge. If we don't win the cup it is going to be so difficult to keep a lot of these guys together. The cap will go up, Boyle and Stalberg and Moore will be gone. Hopefully McIlrath and/or Skjei will be regulars on D (we'll see what happens with Yandle). So I think we'll be okay, but not everyone can be re-signed.

    It is also why we must deal Klein or Yandle NOW before the season IMO. We have 8 dmen now, so get it done Gorton.

    I'm also not sure if all those guys are arb eligible Prod. Miller in his 3rd season is arb eligible? Not sure about that. Not sure about Hayes and Etem either.
     
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    Can't imagine Hayes wouldn't sign a bridge deal
     
  17. Messiah717

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    That's what I keep trying to explain about the cap. But now suddenly I'm a miserable dickhead because after all the years of the cap people are still complaining instead of realizing how it complicates keeping teams together. It's not horrible management it's cap management.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you are right Prod:

    Miller will have arbitration rights next offseason as an RFA.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    The Rangers reportedly have $6.75 million in cap space after today’s signings of JT Miller ($874,000) and Jesper Fast ($950,000) (NY Post)

    The $6.75 million in cap space has 22 players on the roster and includes Dylan McIlrath ($600,000) and Oscar Lindberg ($650,000).

    Subtracting McIlrath and Lindberg, while exposing them to waivers, would put the Rangers at $8 million in cap space and 20 players on the roster. (Hockey’s Cap)
     
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    theProdigy223 Well-Known Member

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    Hayes is not eligible and I didnt say he was. Miller is, as is Etem. They will each have completed their fourth seasons after this one. In fact, if you look at the reports and releases on Miller, he was fine signing the qualifier because it ensures he's up for contract next year with arb rights. We couldnt get his AAV high enough on this deal to buy out a year of arb rights.
     

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