Reviews of our Summer League players

It was his wheeling and dealing that got us into this mess!

Well, that and Aldridge leaving.

 

One more comment on Vonleh:
he's a disappointingly poor finisher. That's where his average athleticism hurts the most. For all his lack of bulk, Thomas was much better at finishing, particularly in traffic.

 

I'm thinking he's done great with the rebuild but it's obvious we need a pt guard who doesn't turn the ball over. Frazier is a spark plug but you need a solid vet to mentor not only Frazier, but Dame, CJ, Montero and any young ball handler. I think we should pick up Dre

 

Because he's fallen and he can't get up?

 

Vonleh's upside is way beyond TRobs in my view. He's 19 and coachable. Kaman will help him a lot if we keep him around

 

Because we're stacked with young bigs who can finish an alley oop and we need his passing and general old school mentoring..Dre is also one of my favorite pt guards to play the game.

 

If you're disappointed in Frazier u weren't watching the games, he's gonna be awesome this year, I see him getting at least 20 mins a game, some of them alongside Damian.
Crabbe was very good, proved to be a capable replacement to Batum, good all-around player, team oriented, good decision maker, another Point-Forward.
Vonleh is going to be very nice, a very versatile big, can play inside or out, has a good understanding on defense (even if somewhat lacking in foot-speed) and he set more picks in 3 SL games than Lamarcus has the entire season. I like him a lot for our rotation.
Thomas is a very nice player, low-key but does very good job, dependable, he's a bit undersized for a 4 which is why he isn't a regular-rotation NBA player but he could be a nice addition to any team.
Daniel Orton is another guy I liked, a big but skilled Center, not a shot-blocker but a good team defender, I thought he could maybe find a place on our roster but he got less playing-time as the SL progressed so I guess this is probably not happening.
Ra'shad James I didn't really pay much attention to and the last game was the first one I didn't watch at all but if he did good I wouldn't really mind him as the 3rd PG behind Damian and Frazier, I think we maybe need this kind of insurance-PG and he could be a decent option.

 

I'm sure we keep Frazier but he's not a solid backup yet. 3rd string guy ..great project

 

James is another 2 guard in a PG's body. did not impress at PG, but was fun to watch at SG.
Small ball in the 4th with him and Frazier together (and Vonleh) was the funnest part of the whole summer league.

 

I've been thinking the same thing.

 

Bad finisher? He's shot 58% from 2pt range....

 

Honestly, I think Frazier becomes our 3rd-guard behind Damian and CJ. I think he can play with either and I think he gets major minutes.

 

Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say
But nothing comes out when they move their lips
Just a bunch of gibberish
And mother****ers act like they forgot about Dre

 

Every time I get too high or too low about SL and player performance, I chant the mantra I learned (the hard way) in 2008......Jerryd Bayless, Jerryd Bayless, Jerryd Bayless.....and sanity and reality usually return quite quickly.

 

Your expectations of polish and refinement for young players is disappointing. To add, Vonleh WILL be a starter in this league and a top tier/all-star one barring injury. None of this "maybe he'll eventually turn into a starter" bullshit.

 

Yes, but Bayless was a lottery pick, we were trying to see in him even things that weren't there to justify that pick. Me personaly was somewhat weary of his performance (compared to him being heraled as the SL MVP - together with Josh Selbi... - etc) and thought Batum disappointing performance didn't mean he was a total bust.
But I think in this SL, many players had nice showings, I think our expectations were down to begin with and I think Frazier, Crabbe and Vonleh but also other players like Orton, Thomas and I thought also Cauvington played very well.
I like this opportunity to have many young, under the radar players get a chance. I've been impressed with this direction taken by Olshey even before SL and I became even more optimistic seeing some of our players.

 

Right now, I would take Bayless as our BUPG over Frazier. Heck, why not trade with the Bucks for Bayless and have both of them?

The Bucks probably have the most PG depth of any team.
1) MCW starts,
2) Greivis Vasquez draft night trade from Toronto will soak up the BUPG minutes.
3) Tyler Ennis is the Bucks PG project.
4) Not sure what Gutierrez does except cash checks?
5) Bayless makes PG #5.

Olshey might be able to make a trade for Bayless without giving much for him.

 

I was underwhelmed. Maybe Crabbe will get minutes this season. That's about it.

 

I am and I was.

Oh good. I wonder why he hid it in Summer League.

 

Batum: second in the league for assists for a SF (behind LeBron) on a very down year.
Crabbe: 0.8 assists per game.

Perhaps you thought "point-forward" meant "forward who scores points"?