Legit game changers to put Portland into contention

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  1. BonesJones

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    when'd we last try that? Our 4 big time (or supposed to be big time) players from the past decade were acquired via draft.
     
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    Thats how I approach relationships too
     
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    Wow, you're really shooting for the moon with those names. No wonder you want to deal our prospects away. I mean there's no chance of anyone on our roster developing to the level of Courtney friggin' Lee... :sigh:
     
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    Except buck Williams he came with a trade and he was suppose to be the missing piece back then. There also was Scottie we also got in a trade.
     
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  5. magnifier661

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    In 1998, we had some decent talent. Enough to just make the playoffs and get bounced in the first round. The following year, we acquired minimal players through trades like Greg Anthony, Walt Williams, Jim Jackson and Stacy Augman. These three players were added to a core of Sheed, Sabas, Damon, Rider and Grant. We went to the WCF in 1999 with the second lowest payroll in the league.
     
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    neither Lamarcus nor Wes were drafted by Portland. We got Mathews from Utah and traded Tyrus Thomas for Lamarcus..
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    ahhhhh very good point
     
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    LaMarcus was effectively drafted by Portland. Its misleading to say we drafted Tyrus Thomas or Randy Foye.

    Wes was a free agent though.
     
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    I know if George Karl was in charge, he would snap that up in a second.
     
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    Well we've also had balanced teams and more often than not we have also came up short and even shorter.
     
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    I think any GM would snap that up
     
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    i really likes the idea of trading for anthony davis then signing durant. obviously this would happen after the season. so we can draft simmons with no.1 pick.
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    our team would be great, since we got offense taken care of we should sign Tom Thibodeau to be defense coach. if only dreams come true
     
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    Of course you would like the idea. I think everyone in this forum would absolutely love the idea.

    Here's the problem... The likelihood of it happening is like being struck by lightning twice in 1 day
     
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    I know, I consider that drafting, since it was a small draft day trade. I'm talking about Roy, Oden, Aldridge, and Lillard.
     
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    oh yeah. A 50% FG shooter, 40% 3pt shooter, and a lockdown defender. He's trash.

    Obviously you don't realize he'd be a guy to add after getting someone like Horford and Parsons, when we'd only have $10M or so.
    You don't think a lineup of Lillard/Lee/Parsons/Cousins/Horford could contend?
     
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    Any more than our previous starting five could? Not without a bench, which you're wanting to decimate. And that's assuming we can bring in all those guys, and that they all stay healthy, and that they all gel...just as much of a crapshoot as the current track.

    You criticize others for only looking at the potential in their scenarios, but you're guilty of the exact same thing with yours.
     
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    Let's say we trade Aminu, Vonleh, Leonard, McCollum, and Plumlee (That's a lot but just for this demonstration) We'd have our bi-annual exception, and cap space exception. Hopefully we'd save $2M in cap space to get DJ Augustin or Aaron Brooks, use the cap exception on someone like Zaza, bi annual exception on someone like Gerald Green.
    You could also add in a draft pick (Jamal Murray?)

    Lillard/Augustin/Murray
    Lee/Crabbe/Connaugton
    Parsons/Green/Montero
    Cousins/Davis/Alexander
    Horford/Zaza/?

    That's still a pretty good bench to go with a better starting 5 than we ever had in the Lamarsha era.
    It'd be tough to get those guys exactly, but if we could sign a borderline allstar and a couple good starters, then we could use the rest of the cap plus our exceptions to round out the bench.
     
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    First...you can't have both BAE and room exception. If we're using cap space, we renounce the BAE.

    Second, you're seriously deluded if you think a bench of Ed Davis and a bunch of room-exception-level guys is sufficient for a contender.
     
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    All I know is, is that that bench is as good as we had last year pre-Afflalo.

    That's true we do renounce it. But whoever we draft could fill in. The thing is, we'd have 4 guys worthy of 35 minutes a game. Crabbe is a good 3 and D guy, Augustin is an average backup PG, and Gerald Green could be our scorer off the bench.

    Obviously getting that exact group will be near impossible. I'm just talking about how we could fill out the team.
     
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    I understand what you're saying...that we'd basically have two viable starters and two viable reserves, and that through the draw of playing with DMC and Lillard we'd somehow be able to use cap space to sign three more above-average starters to form this outstanding starting five, and that we'd be able to bring in two to three more serviceable bench players for very little.

    Feels like too many "if's" to me to be a superior alternative to the plan Olshey is currently working.
     
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