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Hahahaha! It's all good man. Sometimes I pay attention and lose the OP

 

One of the posts of the year, right here. LOL!!!

 

I hope you paid more attention to your wife than your phone. I can't imagine how bad it would be for you if the "yes dear" was accidentally in response to "does this dress make my butt look fat?".

 

Jordan would have averaged 80 points a game in 1964.

 

Back then that hook would never have been called because hand checking was "legal" (I want to say they change the hand checking ruled in either '94 or '96). Just like the offensive foul against Byron Russell. That's just something you're not going to call against Jordan.

As for the three second rule, its called advantage/disadvantage. A ref asks themselves a question: is this player gaining an advantage from being in the key so long? A player would never be in my key for 5 seconds ... F that... (at least up to college where refereeing is still pure).

 

We used to (and you still can do this at maybe the middle school level where they are still learning) tell the players:

"Get outta the key!"

But they nip that in the bud and that's probably for the best. A good referee friend of mine called the funniest 3 second call you will ever hear. On two or three different occasions he tells the player to get out of the key. Without responding to him, he's called three seconds on her twice in the first half. In the third quarter the girl was just standing in the key looking around not doing anything again. She wasn't guarding anyone, nor did she really look like she knew what she was doing at all. He tells her three or four times to get out of the key. Still no response. After she's in the lane for about 4 seconds he finally blows his whistle and says:

"SHE'S LIVING IN THERE!!!"

She never did it for the rest of the game.

 

And I think you just did. Were you there to see?

 

I have never seen a defender nearly as good as Russell. I don't think Jordan did either.

 

Except that the pool of players is much larger than it was then. The population of the US is more than double what it was then, the number of college programs is much larger, and the number of NBA-caliber international players has increased dramatically. I'd be willing to bet that if you had a time machine half of the teams in today's NBA could win a series against the NBA champion teams from about 40 years ago.

 

And the fans today have better hair

 

And so do the players!

 

Ahh. You friggin kids today with your Pac Man and your Mahongany Rush albums and your Cherry Phosphate! When are you going to learn that times don't change.......

 

Oscar and Jerry would be the best two guards today in the NBA. In their 70s.

Wilt would be the best center. Even in his present condition.

 

Subtract a zero. They actually used to call traveling back then......and the sheer physicality of the game back then would have reduced MJ to quivering jelly. Russell, Chamberlain, Thurmond and Bellamy would have hammered him into the ground...and gotten away with it. The rules have changed and that's not necessarily a bad thing. That's why it's is so difficult to compare generations. Plus everything always looks better from the vantage point of memory. That's why I argue so strongly for my position. But.....sorry BC, Jordan wouldn't have been a transcendent player had he played back in the '60s, merely a decent one. I genuinely believe that.

 

Well, maybe as long as you exclude HCP.

 

Yeah I definitely agree with that. Henderson would've been an allstar with his athleticism, coordination, drives and dunks. Put Chris Kaman from a couple years ago back in the 60's and he would've been scoring 30+ppg. He has great moves inside but now every team has a 7 footer to defend him with. He would've been as dominant as George Mikan. In today's game he's a role player. The bad players now are much bigger, faster, stronger and more knowledgeable than players back then. They have teams of coaches and work year round. Back then professional athletes smoked, drank and worked jobs on the side for money. Now days players are far better shooters too. In the 2014-15 season there were 33 NBA players who shot 85% or more on FT's with 100 attempts. 50 years ago in 1964-65 there was ONE, Larry Costello.

Now you take some of the greats from back then and put them in a modern training environment it would've been interesting to see what that would've done. Those players didn't have the staff, trainers or coaches that modern players have. Especially players with injuries; there was no ACL reconstructions back then. If you got hurt you just had a bad knee and that was that. So modern players have the luxury of those advances.

There will never be an answer to these debates, but we all have our opinions.

 

Big difference playing in Converse All Stars with doubled up gym socks compared to Air Jordans...just one comparison