Is this a hate crime? Part 2

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    You're right about me not knowing about how your day goes. But I think it's fair to say that you in turn have know idea what the people you come in contact are thinking. When I am pulled over I do the same thing. I do that because as a dumbass youth I was pulled over and had an attitude. I did nothing illegal, but was asked to get out of the car and handcuffs were placed on and guns were drawn.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Truth. My problem is the irrelevant line of questioning. Where I'm going and what I'm up to is none of your damn business.

    I say ALL of this with the understanding that I've had plenty of good interactions with police once they understand I'm no threat. The main thing is why I was pulled over in the first place.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Stop being a profiling denier. I don't need that side of the argument. I JUST posted the stop and frisk numbers. Read them and gain perspective. Try having some empathy instead of looking for a way to ignore what we deal with.
     
  4. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    The cops act like being pulled over or even being arrested is no big deal. I read car magazines and letters about cops pulling people over because and only because they like the hot rod the guy is driving.

    Who the fuck do they think they are?
     
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    My personal belief is that LEOs should make MUCH more money. To get that money they need WAY more than the 21 week average of police academy (in OR it's 10 FUCKING weeks....). IMHO they should at least have an Bachelors (yup disagree if you want but why not?). They need to have Psyche evaluations and should have to pass sociology, psychology, criminology, courses. There should be a Bachelors Degree SPECIFICALLY for LEOs. Then pay them +80K so they won't want to lose that money they worked so hard to get.
     
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    cops need to get rid of the quota they have for citations..it's like a demerit if you don't fill your quota over a period of time.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I make that much fixing cars. My job is dangerous to a degree but not like a police officer. I work with dangerous chemicals and machines that could kill me. Very unlikely the machines will, the chemicals are worse.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Speaking of which, I gotta get back to it. First slow day in months and months. I still have stuff to do but I'm not in a rush.
     
  9. Mediocre Man

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    I don't deny some black people deal with things. I also think it's short sighted of you to tjink some white people don't deal with things also.

    I'm not a profiling denier (is that a word) at all. I just think it goes both ways. To the extent? No, but it's there.

    If I see a group of young black kids wearing red bandanas, walking towards me on a street late at night I get nervous. Just as you probably would if a group of white kids with shaved heads and combat boots were walking towards you.

    60% of prisoners are black...I think. Is it unfair to be wary in cettain situations?
     
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    Watched the whole thing. Video was careful not to reveal what she did but at 13 secs you see a man in a wheelchair and either a person or a lot of belongings on the ground beside him.

    It's clear they are holding her until the police arrive and she's an adult, not a "little girl", as it takes 3 men to barely control her. She bites the guy's arm and he hits her until she releases his arm. She appears to be unharmed. Hopefully, the bites didn't infect the man

    Having quite a lot of personal experience in apprehending shoplifters and holding them for the police, I'd say these guys risked their lives to apprehend a criminal and handled the chore humanely and appropriately. They could have been shot or stabbed for their heroism.

    If you're looking for a hate crime here it's that she committed a crime against a white person.
     
  11. Mediocre Man

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    I sat in on a town forum regarding this subject. I ABSOLUTELY agree with you, but it does raise money to help pay for shit. How do you replace that? Higher fines?
     
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    While I agree that Leos should have college degrees and psyche tests, I feel sympathy for them for all the shit they have to deal with. Plenty of them are risking their lives day in and out to keep people safe, and all they hear about anymore is how much people hate them. People constantly are disrespecting them and treating them like shit. Hearing that repeatedly is going to affect basically anyone.
     
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    People haven't liked the cops ("pigs") since at least the 1960s. I don't think the british cops were well liked before we were a country, either.
     
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    Tax legalized marijuana.
     
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    In the small rural community I live in, the cops are great..they have an officer in the public library once a week to talk with locals about their concerns, they know all the locals and have had a huge impact on crime decreasing..never seen them angry of even reach for a gun. I'm lucky here I guess.
     
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    I don't think cops were liked since the Prohibition era
     
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    How has it taken these idiots this long to realize the tax benefits?
     
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    Then pay them more.
     
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    You make the fines based upon income. The more you make the more you pay.

    How do you deter the millionaire from speeding with a $250 ticket?
     
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