Tech Global warming: greatest sham in science

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I would but you don't deserve it. I donate to the national destroy the tuna and environment fund
     
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    Got any vids of you destroying tuna? Is that possible for Asians?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    [​IMG]

    Mmmm mmmm.

    Tastes like bald eagle.
     
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    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    Those aren't tuna mags tiny fish.jpg
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    But as any El Niño researcher will tell you, no two El Niño events are alike, and the impacts from this one aren’t guaranteed to be just like 1997-1998.

    The most obvious difference between this year and that event, clearly visible in the animation, is the “blob” of warm water off the west coast of North America, a symptom of the relentless high pressure pattern that has kept the West hot and dry over much of the last few years and led to the deep drought in California.

    http://www.livescience.com/49052-california-drought-linked-natural-causes.html

    California Drought Linked to Natural Causes, Not Climate Change

    The ridge and its accompanying drought are opposite the conditions that climate models predict under global[​IMG] warming, lead study author Richard Seager, a professor at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in New York, said today (Dec. 8) during a news briefing. Climate models project low-pressure systems off the West Coast, with wetter winters and drier springs for central and northern California, he said. "Overall, it's a shorter, sharper rainy season," Seager said.

    :lol:

    http://cpo.noaa.gov/ClimatePrograms...orces/DroughtTaskForce/CaliforniaDrought.aspx

    The current drought is not part of a long-term change in California precipitation, which exhibits no appreciable trend since 1895. Key oceanic features that caused precipitation inhibiting atmospheric ridging off the West Coast during 2011-14 were symptomatic of natural internal atmosphere-ocean variability.

    Model simulations indicate that human-induced climate change increases California precipitation in mid-winter, with a low-pressure circulation anomaly over the North Pacific, opposite to conditions of the last 3 winters. The same model simulations indicate a decrease in spring precipitation over California. However, precipitation deficits observed during the past three years are an order of magnitude greater than the model simulated changes related to human-induced forcing. Nonetheless, record setting high temperature that accompanied this recent drought was likely made more extreme due to human-induced global warming.
     
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    sorry but never mentioned drought, though both articles state and quote the scientists that human induced changes are very real, even if not the direct cause, of the situation/patterns you sighted
     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You said
    NOAA says, NOT!

    Your link talks about the high pressure ridge affecting El Niño. Not global warming scam.

    Typical of alarmist global warming claims.

    The drought is man made, though. The government is directing vast amounts of fresh water to the ocean instead of the aqueducts that have been used to irrigate the central valleys and Southern California.

    Not CO2. Bad policy.
     
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    Spot On Denny! That and fear of building more reservoir like the farmers (and responsive governments) used to do.

    Hey, I was up in NewPort OR last week with the boat. While there, I was listening to the Noaa weather forecast on the VHF radio. The warmest day in history for that day in NewPort was in 1914, 101 years ago. Come to think of it, I don't think there is a City on the Oregon coast that has it's warmest day in history in this century. Noaa keep track of this sort of thing to put out in Mariner weather info from all the cities they focus on, on the whole coastline.
     
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    It doesn't matter where water is or isn't being diverted if their isn't any rain or snow. The drought in California is because a lack of precipitation. How you guys use the water is up to you but you first have to actually have the water before your argument actually holds water. (See what I did there?)
     
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    1 day is not a trend.

    A trend is this -


    Portland is on pace Tuesday to set an all-time record for 90-degree days in a calendar year.

    When the temperature hits 90 this afternoon -- OK, if, but forecasts call for a high of 97 to 100 -- it will mark the city's 25th 90-degree day of 2015, eclipsing the previous record of 24 set in 2009.

    What's more, the record may stand for only one day. The National Weather Service is expecting another scorcher Wednesday, with temperatures reaching 94 to 98.

    According the weather service, June had nine days of 90 degrees or higher, July had 12 and August had three. The annual average is 12.


    http://www.oregonlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2015/08/portland_bracing_for_a_record-.html
     
  13. MarAzul

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    When did they start keeping that record? Noaa doesn't keep that stat for any of the focus
    Marine weather forecasts, that I know of.
     
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    but I said obviously nothing to do with global warming! but I am admitting to you that was my intent and they said it is not the case but you not I mentioned drought. stay on task.
     
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    What was the high temperature record for that date in Newport before 1914?
     
  16. MarAzul

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    No, actually it is the EPA that tells them how to use the water these days. The reservoirs built years ago for agriculture are now used to support the snail darter and delta smelt and such.
    Funny when you think of it, using reservoir water to support the wild live but you can't built anymore because of environmental impacts.
     
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    I don't have a clue.
     
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    Again, it doesn't matter who says what about where and how to use the water if there is no water to use.

    It's like arguing over if a truck that gets 20mpg is better than a car that gets 40mpg when there is no gas to fuel either vehicle. The focus should be on how to get more fuel, not how to use the fuel that no one has.
     
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    I have done my part! Instead of taking 5 hour showers, I just take 4.5 hour showers
     
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    If we only had fish
     

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