Tech Global warming: greatest sham in science

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    What about that one? And more importantly why are you on a website about Plant Fossils in West Virginia?

    http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/TableOfCont.html

    The only source the guy sites is an interview from the Washington Post in May of 1998.

    http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/global_warming.html

    This is from the same page you got that graph from - "It will be some time before computer models will be able to reliably predict future climate change. Meanwhile, policy-makers like the United Nations and the Clinton/Gore Administration contend that we do not have time to wait."

    Clinton/Gore?!?
     
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    Huh? What data did I cherry pick?

    You're the one who now measures graphs on the scientific "scary" scale.
     
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    I suspected as much. The two presentations infer two entirely different messages. It really pisses me off to see my government engage in this subterfuge.
     
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    D'oh!
     
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    More like I realize the math trick played to fool people.
     
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    D'oh?!? You posting part of a student's paper from a 2 year community college proves what exactly?!?

    This is where your graph comes from - http://www2.palomar.edu/
     
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    Didn't know I was, but no matter. I googled average temp last 600 thousand years and got that site. You will note it is the same chart as on page 18 of this PDF
    put out by NOAA.
     

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    Scientific American is a worthless rag. Saved you the trouble.
     
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    My bad. Click bait. NOAA is better.

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    How about a link to the article where the graph came from? Also whats that black line on the far right hand side of the graph that seems to jump almost off the page? Must be some sort of a printing error.
     
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    No, you would never post click bait. Lets see the article where that came from.
     
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    The black line is a bunch of math tricks applied to distort the data.

    The data aren't from a consistent source.

    There was a major scandal over this and the hockey schtick is well debunked.

    See the NOAA graph. You won't like that one.

    Cherry pick.
     
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    You've attacked the sources that present NOAA's chart.

    Let's see your beef with NOAA

    Where's the black line?

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    You're so desperately trying to find something, anything to prove... wait what are you trying to prove again? Earlier in this thread you just used the USA ordering Ice Breakers as proof that there is no global warming. The graphs you are now posting don't support that.
     
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    The oceans are dead. Nothing I can find will convince you otherwise. No source is good enough.
     
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    Scientist are wonderful and science is good. But young scientist can be manipulated as can science. Just last year, I ask a young marine biologist how it is that the hatchery Chinook salmon have
    gotten so bad that they need to be destroyed He told me they became inferior from inbreeding for many generations. I ask, How many generations? He said, he did not know. I told him, that I had help catch and harvest the first eggs, fertilize them, and take them to Marion Forks hatcher when it first started business. at the time that was 15 fish generations ago. Seems like a stretch that fish get inbred in this process, since each year the hatchery and the wild salmon participate in these process at random using the capture fish until capacity is reached..

    I hate to say it but, I believe we are being manipulated again. When there are not enough fish, they get put on the endanger species list, then more control is in the hand of government. If all the hatchery fish are gone then the species would qualify to be on the endanger species list. Damn that is hard to believe, but easier than the species is inbred and needs to be destroyed all within
    my life time.
     
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    Where is the black line in the NOAA graph?

    You love that bit.
     
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    How's our polar bear popula?
     
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    No, I only pointed out the sources that you and Marazul posted the graphs from. I thought they were funny but not credible.

    I have no beef with NOAA. You're actually the one who has beef with government agencies. So you trust their graphs but not their conclusions? Or is it more accurate you trust their graphs when you think they support what your current view is. Remember, your opinions on global warming change from post to post.

    You got me! Where is a black line? Why did they use blue and red to make lines? What do they have against black lines.

    I agree with you Denny, #BlackLinesMatter!
     
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