OT Rasheed Wallace still tearing it up at 40 years old

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  1. Blazers Roy

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    As far as i know he's got a job in the Pistons' training\coaching staff and he contributed to Andre Drummond's development.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Love me some sheed!
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Bong don't lie!

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    What development is that? Drummond hasn't improved since his rookie year and actually regressed slightly from year 2 to year 3. Perhaps he's adopted Sheed's steadfast refusal to work on his game, or his conditioning, during the offseason.

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    Sheed was hired at the summer of 2013 and Dre showed progress at 2013-2014 (PPG,FG%,RPG etc...) and i don't give 2shits about "normalizing his rookie numbers to 32 minutes" because it's irrelevant.

    Thugs need thug coaches
     
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    I'm not a huge Walton fan, but I do respect his love for the game and his recognition of, and respect for, truly great players. He was coached by some of the best and played with and against some of the best, and he clearly recognizes their greatness.
     
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    Sheed got so many unfair techs as a Blazer playing against great post players. He actually was right most of the time. A lot of his tech fouls came from Donaghy who was betting on games. Over time it was ridiculous. He bet before games on giving Sheed tech fouls. Shaq would put his hand on Sheed's face and dunk, getting an +1. He was snubbed for multiple allstar games and said he'd rather have time off but I felt it weighed on him. I followed his game when he left Portland and to a man, every teammate he had and coach he had praised his game. He even visited his teammates in Detroit after he was signed by Boston. The towel throwing or clowning in practice is overblown. Sabo was a great talent but a sullen guy who didn't even like to speak English much. We don't know what tension was between him and Sheed around the incident. All in all, I have always been a fan of Sheed's game. Walton is a blow hard. If he thought he'd punch Sheed, he would have had his clock cleaned
     
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    Where do you get Drummond being a thug? Please, do tell...
     
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    Dude... If you've never given a Tech then you gotta GTFO on this one. The only one you actually know shouldn't have been given was the one where he's staring at the ref (really a complete bullshit tech). But take it from someone who's given countless techs, Sheed probably deserved at least 90% of those.
     
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    I watched Sheed's career pretty closely and toward the end, he did get loose but it was accumulative frustration and I believe he never got fair treatment. Donaghy reffed a million games and admitted he planted techs on Sheed all the time. Read his book and it is an eye opener for the unfair era when Sheed was a Blazer. I trusted Dick Bavetta, but superstars like Shaq got away with murder, actually so did Michael Jordan
     
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    Fair enough. But one cheater's techs don't tell the whole story.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The way the NBA reffed Shaq is honestly one of the largest reasons why I hate the league. He practically committed an offensive foul every time down the floor.
     
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    There was an ugly era of superstar coddling in the NBA during Sheed's prime. Shaq, Kobe and Michael Jordan got away with complaining aggressively at refs without getting T'd up. Guys defending them often had a legitimate complaint.
     
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    They still do it. Those days are not gone, but Shaq was probably one of, if not the, worst in the history of the league when it comes to how he was reffed.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    And then he regressed in his third season. His RPG and PPG numbers were nearly identical to his second season, but his FG% took a significant dip. To me, one step forward followed by one step backwards does not equate to forward progress.

    Still Drummond just turned 22 a month ago, and is obviously still a work in progress, but to date, he really hasn't shown much overall improvement in spite of getting a LOT of PT. They are VERY different players, but Meyers Leonard has shown much, much more progress in far less PT (2408 MP for Leonard vs. 6364 MP for Drummond) - but then, Meyers had a LOT more room to improve.

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    Lord... I wonder how many times sheed said "ball dont lie" in practice...
     
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    One of the underrated aspects to Sheed's game was his vocal leadership on defense. Wes had that going for him as well
     
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    Lol seriously, wasn't Drummond just dating a Nickelodeon teeny bopper?
     
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    I'm talking about his build and the kind of basketball he needs to play, i don't know him as a person.
     
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    Fair enough.
    I heard he started shooting 3s because of Sheed, we'll wee how he pans out.
     

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