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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Let me preface this by saying I know not all Sly Dogs are like this, but I have to say what I think about when I think about Sly Dogs.


    Sly Dogs lick their own junk and smell other's butts. They eat feces and they go through bitch after bitch having bastard mutts that they don't support.

    Outside of a rare forum mod (easiest job EVER) none of them have jobs or contribute to society. They shed hair everywhere, they smell and drink from toilets. They bark for no apparent reason except for the night a guy breaks into your car.

    Basically Sly Dogs are all lazy bums and I hope they get CIV and then full blown AIDS.

    Wait, did I mention I was only talking about Korean dogs?
     
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    This guy likes dogs more than he likes his own uncle
     
  3. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    He was too pussy to eat his uncle so he fed his uncle to the dogs and ate the dogs instead.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Every God-fearing Christian should despise the conservative Moonie paper, founded by Koreans who worship the Rev. Moon.

    Crazy newspaper.
     
  5. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Corporate and personal are two entirely different things dviss. We've tried explaining this to you many times.

    If I make money in China, I won't have to pay tax in the U.S. until I bring that money into the U.S. The money isn't being made in the United States. It's being made overseas.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    LMAO! That was a fucking joke though! You are being dead serious
     
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    Well I did not know of you then, but I have no doubt you whined like hell. It follows.
     
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    The income tax that was ratified as a constitutional amendment called for a maximum 7% tax on income. Now look what you would support!!!
    Hell, I am strongly in favor of starting a revolution and purging the country of people that would support this shit.
     
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    I was going to go with Korean Dog market theme but mags lost his puppy yesterday and I'm trying to be sensitive...also the images on that search were all really gross
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Thanks man...
     
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    no prob
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Why does income inequality matter?

    And doesn't it matter how it is measured?

    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/07/06/just-how-stagnant-are-wages-anyway/

    But Mr. Rose argues that one more change is important: using the right inflation index. The personal consumption expenditures price index has generally shown inflation to be lower than the CPI. And many economists believe the PCE is the more accurate index, since it better accounts for the ways that consumers’ consumption behavior changesover time. The Federal Reserve, for example, prefers the PCE price index.

    When Mr. Rose looked at real compensation, adjusted for the PCE price index, the median worker has seen a gain of 38%. The median woman has gained 73% and the median male 13%.

    The period since 2007 has still been rough, by this metric, but the notion of a decades’ long stagnation is no longer supported.
     
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    Seems like the main argument of the PCE is that overall compensation is up during this period and overall compensation should be looked at instead of just income. The issue I see here though is that overall compensation is largely tied to health care costs put out by employers. Health care costs have gone up during that period so of course their compensation expenses have gone up, but for the average person their overall benefits of the health care have not changed or have even been reduced, only the amount their employer contributes to it has increased. That also only holds true for people who get health care as part of their employment, which as you go down the pay scale it becomes a much smaller number. Obamacare changes the dynamics of this some but that has only been in effect a few years.
     
  16. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You didn't really answer my main question. Why does income inequality matter?

    The rich aren't getting richer at anyone's actual expense. The economy would have to be static for that to happen. But the economy isn't static. GDP grows almost every year (a recession or is a period of negative GDP growth).


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    The "stagnant wages" argument doesn't seem to fly, either.
     
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    Inequality matters because when a disproportionate amount of income continually goes to people who do not need to spend it, then it systemically decays the economy from the ground up. Immediate inequality has to do with ability to pay bills and long term inequality has to do with ability to uplift ones self to another economic bracket. There will always be inequality and a certain amount is healthy, but when immediate or long term inequality becomes greater than the ability ability to "work hard and over come it" then its a problem.
     
  18. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Where do the rich keep their money they don't spend, in a mattress? Where does that money really go and end up doing?

    The answer is it goes into banks or stocks or bonds. In any of those, the money ends up invested in the economy in the form of business loans or mortgages (banks), government infrastructure (bonds), or business capital (stocks, bonds).

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    Adjusted for inflation, median income has steadily gone up. This means that everyone's buying power has gone up. Except for the Obamanomics years, so far. From 1967 to 2009, the real (inflation adjusted) median household income of the lower 20% of earners increased by 25%. So our "poor" have a better standard of living.

    I think you are mistaken in your thinking that people in the lower economic "brackets" are somehow stuck in those.

    This treasury.gov report suggests otherwise.

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    The very last sentence of the last bullet point is hugely significant.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    See this is the bullshit that really bothers me. Also, I've seen conflicting reports on the actual distribution of wealth. Some numbers show the top 15% get 40% of the nations wealth, which is much less than what Bernie claims on his video
     
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    There's a difference between "wealth" and "income."
     

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