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  1. Denny Crane

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    I don't think we want Russia building military bases in the middle east, do you?

    Why aren't we stopping them?

    Because Obama's afraid of the big bad bully.
     
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    Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressivelydominate others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power, which distinguishes bullying from conflict
     
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    I honestly don't give two shits about Syria. I feel bad for the Syrian people but I do not want US bases or troops in Syria. If Russia wants to step into that mess good for them.

    You keep dodging my question, do you think the US should be building military bases in Syria?
     
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    Why should we stop them? More specifically, what right would we have to stop them? We don't not stop them because we fear them; we don't stop them because their actions do not encroach on our rights or freedoms. The US using their power and influence to unjustly and unreasonably prevent Russia from building a military base in Syria would quite certainly qualify as bullying.

    Sounds like you want the US to exert control over Russia. Sounds like you want Obama to be a bully. Why do you support bullying?
     
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  5. Denny Crane

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    No. But I don't think we want Russia to be building military bases in Syria.
     
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    Drawing a line in the sand and then backing down is being bullied.
     
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    So if Sam tells Ivan not to sit at the cool table in the cafeteria, and Ivan does so anyway, and Sam chooses not to push him out of his seat, then that makes Ivan a bully?

    You still don't indicate what right the US would have to stop Russia from building a base in Syria.
     
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    So what would President Denny do about this? Bomb the Russian military bases? Drone attacks? Maybe a couple of nukes? Exactly how would you stop Russia from building bases in a place you don't want to send US troops?
     
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  9. PtldPlatypus

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    He would use force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate Russia in order to ensure that they complied with US demands.

    Denny supports bullying.
     
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    It would be if Ivan has a history of instigating fights, telling everyone that he wants to fight Sam, then Sam says "If you sit on the cool table, I'm gonna punch you" and Ivan sits there anyway.
     
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  11. SlyPokerDog

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    No, a good president wouldn't put his country in position to have to bomb the Russian Miltary base.
     
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    Russia was gonna do what they did regardless of who was president. Annexing Crimea had everything to do with Oil.
     
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    See, I disagree with you. Unless the school authorities say otherwise, Ivan has the right to sit at any table he wants, and Sam overstepped by trying to dictate to Ivan. Sam tried to become the bully, and Ivan just called his bluff. Standing up to a bully does not equate to bullying, regardless of the history.

    Support liberty, not bullying.
     
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    What should of Obama have done? Do you think we should have built military bases in Syria? I'm not seeing how Russia going to a place we're not interested in going to is some big insult to us.
     
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    If Syria is the cool table then I have no problem letting Ivan sit there.
     
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    That's just hilarious to me. The "Big Bad Bully" also has MORE nukes than we do. We are already having economic sanctions. What's your plan? Ground troops?
     
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    We should have the CIA secretly give anyone who will try and knock Ivan off of the cool table money and weapons.
     
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    You're right. I should have said "the boiler room" instead.
     
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    Then Obama shouldn't have drawn a line in the sand
     
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