Black People can't be racist

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  1. JFizzleRaider

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    Just because we waste money on things doesn't make it ok. Wasting money is bad, especially when this country has been hemorrhaging money. Giving people.moneywon't change what happened. And why stop there? Obviously the Japanese put it internment camps should then hey money too, right?

    I think the better play is to do everything in our power to make the USA more equal. Give them every opportunity to make their American dream. Harshly punish any person for hate crimes, especially cops that are committing these atrocities.

    Giving people money doesn't help them, giving them tools to improve themselves and have a chance is much better.

    I'd much rather offer advantages for them to attend higher education if it came down to it than giving cash
     
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    And yes the Japanese got reparations, just rememered that after typing so.

    But just a heads up for how ridiculous reparations s can get, I'm 1/8 native American and can get federally subsidized health care
     
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    http://articles.latimes.com/1990-10-01/news/mn-1299_1_budget-agreement

    Payments to WWII Internees to Begin : Reparations: The budget agreement clears the way for the program. The oldest survivors will be the first to receive the $20,000 checks.
    October 01, 1990|From Associated Press
     
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    Point is, giving money to people generations later from the atrocities doesn't change what happened. Strengthen them to improve themselves.
     
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    so am I but I don't take advantage of it.
     
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    I'm talking about giving millions of wronged people $trillions to invest in their futures and the futures of their progeny.

    The people can buy the 1% if they choose.
     
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    Were they wronged?. Or was it their ancestors?
     
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    This is a very fair point, however I think a good form of reparations would be to spend tax money on historically black neighborhoods that need help. For example more law enforcement in the areas, better schools, supporting small businesses, better infrastructure, etc. Small steps that would lead to actual growth.
     
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    Absolutely.

    You don't just give your kids wads of cash. They would blow through it in a second. You give them the tools to empower themselves to succeed.

    I can't tell you how many times I've given my parents money to see it vanish. Giving people money enables them and doesn't set them up for long term success. Access to college, or improving the neighborhoods would absolutely do so
     
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    How much do you think Dad and I owe? He wasn't here long but I guess he owes something. I been here a long time now, must be a big fucking bill by now.
     
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    It is still a precedent for paying reparations.

    Germany has been paying reparations to holocaust survivors and their children since 1952, finding more people all the time to make payments to.

    Another precedent, payments ongoing for the last 100 years by the government to Indians.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/u...ns-royalties-for-land-but-cant-find-them.html
     
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    You owe your income taxes. The reparations are made from those funds, or bonds that are paid off with taxes.
     
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    What?......

    How is handing them a big check teaching them anything? How many people who win the lottery end up right back where they started? It's note even a racial issue. There are a ton of examples of people who won a big amount of money and blew it all on stupid shit. There are a ton of athletes who wasted millions of dollars and ended up poor. Why do you think that handing someone a lot of money is going to suddenly change anything?

    What's the best case scenario? That they all reinvest that money into their local economy?

    What's the worst? That a bunch of people quit their jobs, blow the money, and end up jobless and bankrupt? Then what?
     
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    It enables them to buy banks.

    I suggested $6T, which would buy 10 companies the size of Apple, roughly.

    Giving people significant money is life changing, which is the point.

    And as i said, once paid, there is nommore excuse to complain about society's ills. They can go buy their own society.
     
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    They'd be reeee itch beeeee itch.
     
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    Until they blow it and want more.

    Teach them and set them up for success. don't hemorrhage more money where it's conceivable some.of the people.will blow it.
     
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    You're looking for excuses to not do the right thing.

    If people blow their money, so be it. They should have the chance to blow it on drugs and hookers, or use it for capital formation. It doesn't take a big % to be successes to radically change the landscape for the better.
     
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    :rotfl:

    How does that work? Is there an elected board that spends the money? Are you hoping that they do something like the Indians with their casinos?

    If you dole out the money, I promise that a lot of it will go to cars, houses, tv's, and god knows what else because that's what a lot of people would do.
     
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    Neither do I,because I don't deserve it. There is no point for me to benefit from that, my heritage there has literally not affected anything in my life to make it warranted that I should have the feds foot the bill for me
     
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