So: are we going to be TOO good?

I'm not really talking about his shooting slump last year (I think health was a factor) it's his fairly poor defense. I'm not saying he doesn't try and that he might not get marginally better with time, but it's a pretty major flaw in his game and is the one thing that holds him back from being considered the elite of the elite (which is the rarefied air Curry occupies).

 

Oh also, isn't Curry 2-3 years further into the league?

 

The "I'll believe it when I see it" stuff from a lot of people is all good and dandy, but if you have no confidence at all in this group of players, I guess there's not much anyone can say to change your mind.

The Golden State example that was brought up earlier was pretty good though, did you really see Green or Thompson as stars before it happened? Did anyone really see Curry winning MVP after all those ankle injuries? Chances are the same people that don't see anything in our current players would have believed Curry couldn't stay healthy if they were Warrior fans.

 

Is Curry really that good at defense? He seems to get burned as well.

 

Those are your words not mine. I said Damian is a notch below Curry, those are the facts. Golden State has a very good team surrounding Curry too, but the fact remains he is an MVP and bends the court and without him being that good there's no way Golden State wins a title.

 

Did you mean to quote me on this? I'm not seeing the correlation to what I said.

 

I don't think he's elite, but the numbers here don't look too bad http://www.82games.com/1415/14GSW1.HTM

 

Nik mostly I suppose.

Curry = MVP
Damian = Not-MVP

Well duh, it's not like players ever improve.

 

I was trying to provide the simplest case I could to satisfy Orion's demand for evidence (that he said I wasn't providing for my claim).

 

You skated the tough questions though.. Again, wasn't he that good the year before but they didn't win? Wasn't it the step up of play from the guys around him that took them from a one and done to a ring? Not trying to diminish Currys impact, but your insistence that he was the end all is ludicrous, Nikiloklus.

If that's the case for one player being the end all then LBJ should have a ring for every year he has played....

 

And you failed miserably.

The question had nothing even to do with Curry. It had to do with a lottery pick and what would one more really do to improve this team compared go all of the ones we already have?

 

I think I should specify...I don't think Nik is wrong when he says he doesn't have a ton of confidence in our guys. Factually speaking, yeah, they haven't shown much yet.

I just think it's kind of sad for your fandom if you don't harbor a single ounce of positivity for ANY of these players. Chances are, at least one of two of them are going to prove themselves to be starter-caliber players in this league, even if we're being un-optimistic.

 

I'm probably too optimistic. I see a lot of potential on this roster.

 

What tough question? I've got 5 or 6 people responding to what I wrote. In any case he did have a significan jump in performance: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/curryst01.html
Going from 24 PER (good all-star numbers) to 28 PER (MVP level production) probably helped tip the scales. As for Lebron, he's usually had horrendously poor teams around him so I'm not sure what your point is?

So let me state this as clearly and succinctly as I can. In order to win a ring a team almost always needs 1 MVP level player and another All-Star level player (preferably two) and the ability to play defense to win it all. Take out one of those components and the road to a title becomes either impossible or incredibly unlikely.

 

I answered your question directly. Ask better questions if you want a different answer.

 

Im with ya. I think a lot of us are. I know Kingspeed is too. Isnt that saying something though? If that many of us are starting to see potential? I think most of the pessimists are still looking at these guys numbers from previous years.

New team, potentially new life...

 

I wasn't really sure what to expect from guys like Harkless, Aminu, and Davis, but I like what I've seen so far.

 

This is true in times past. the game is changing though and GS is proof of that.

Hmmm you did? When did I... NM, quotes are the easiest. Lets start again... Here is my question you answered so directly....

"What is one more lottery pick going to do to help this team, other than be a potential trade offering in the offseason?
I mean with how many we already have, what is one more really going to do? Especially when he will more than likely be a few years younger than the core we are trying to build around Dame?

Why aren't people embracing the guys we have and wanting them to develop? Another lotto pick means another guy to develop, taking coaching time away from who we already have.

If we make the lottery then this means our team is a lot worse than we/I thought and most of our new acquisitions have not panned out and our other guys didn't take the next step we were hoping for. If we miss the lottery and are in contention for the 8th spot, NORMALLY that's a dead zone, but with this young roster full of upside? Id much rather just miss the playoffs this year, than be a lotto pick. Im pretty sure anyone with long term thoughts on this team will see the reasoning behind my opinion... I hope. "

How you think comparing Dame to Curry is answering this is confusing me. I must need to go back to school or something.