Trump: Bernie Sanders wants to tax 'you people' at 90 percent

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  1. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

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    Riverman admitted in the post you quoted that he meant partisan..
     
    VanillaGorilla, Oct 22, 2015
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  2. donkiez

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    omg that would be so awesome, I hope he also promises hand jobs and butterfly kisses. Then Im totally voting for him.
     
    donkiez, Oct 22, 2015
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    I think he basically is promising lots of things he can't deliver on the money he claims he'll raise.

    There isn't enough money.
     
    Denny Crane, Oct 22, 2015
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    Regardless of the "amount", again, taxes are still being raised. When does it stop? I for one, don't feel like I want to pay more because some other 'family' needs "time off". Go earn money yourself and work hard if you want "family time off".
     
    blue32, Oct 22, 2015
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Sounds like every politician who ever ran for office in my 61 years of life.....
     
    UncleCliffy'sDaddy, Oct 22, 2015
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    The taxation trend has been to eliminate taxes on the lower income earners. Reagan cut 6M taxpayers off the tax rolls alone.

    It's gotten to the point where more than half pay no federal income tax at all.

    The "rich" aren't going to be soaked for much more revenue. They simply won't take a pay check. Many CEOs don't already. And the guy with the biggest income last year (made $150M+) had a $3M salary and the rest was unrealized/untaxable income. Bill Gates made a $1M salary his last year(s) at Microsoft. Tax him the whole thing, he wouldn't mind, and it won't get you much.

    Heck, take his entire net worth and it would run the government for a day or two. And then there won't be anything left to take from him.

    So if the intent is to really generate revenues to pay for "free" stuff, you have to tax the masses. No way around it.
     
    Denny Crane, Oct 22, 2015
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    What about maternity and bonding leave? I think a lot of people here agree that the destruction of the family unit is causing the downfall of our country.... should people just work through the birthing process also?
     
    donkiez, Oct 22, 2015
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  8. Denny Crane

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    If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you want to keep your insurance, you can keep your insurance.

    That's how it really works. Lies.
     
    Denny Crane, Oct 22, 2015
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  9. Denny Crane

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    Take good care of that tiny new tax payer.
     
    Denny Crane, Oct 22, 2015
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    Some already pay for that now, with FMLA. And family planning should include saving money for your newborn and family "time off" IMO

    And most often, men (in a family) take advantage of that too when they could be earning a wage.

    Finally, often times people get pregnant when they are not ready to have a family. That shouldn't be on the rest of the citizens to assist.

    Edit: my opinions only. :-)
     
    blue32, Oct 22, 2015
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    If the company has PTO, you can take that concurrent with the leave.
     
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    Coulda, woulda shoulda. If only everybody got pregnant when it was best for them to do so...... and if they did get an unwanted pregnancy, if only there was a health service to help them take care of that, or a family service to help them have the child......
     
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    I hear you. But that shouldn't be a burden to the rest of the citizens. Ya know? We're all free, so why should we have to pay for others unplanned/unwanted oops?
     
    blue32, Oct 22, 2015
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    FMLA is unpaid
     
    Sedatedfork, Oct 22, 2015
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    It's paid, just the recipient doesn't get a paycheck.

    It does cost the company to leave the job open and not have the work done.
     
    Denny Crane, Oct 22, 2015
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    Sure there might be costs (i.e. the premium for filling with a temp which is often more expensive than the person doing the job), but I thought the suggestion was that taxes were funding this. I don't see how, unless you want to just call it a hidden tax to a company that would have fired the employee who took time off for FMLA and now can't because of FMLA.
     
    Sedatedfork, Oct 22, 2015
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    I don't think Sanders' idea is to help the company pay for anything.
     
    Denny Crane, Oct 22, 2015
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    I guess my point is. People should take responsibility for themselves and their families and not expect government hand outs; with that said, I also think I shouldn't have to pay more taxes because Bern wants to create free college/healthcare for people.
     
    blue32, Oct 22, 2015
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    And??? He meant it from the beginning. Why? Because he still talked shit about parties not agreeing, which wasn't the case. He thinks "bipartisan" doesn't exist
     
    magnifier661, Oct 22, 2015
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    That's true freedom. If people are fine without being free, then by all means, keep voting for politicians that keep adding more socialized programs.

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