Infringement of the 2nd amendment nullified by Ballot measure

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  1. MarAzul

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    Oh it was legal when I did it. I am sorry you don't like it, but I do help my neighbors.

    The law enforcement here does agree with this measure. Just spoke with them today, they are making no effort to defeat the measure.

    It is a horrible precedent to stuff this sort of shit on the whole state by a completely Democrat issue that only has favor in a small area.
     
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  2. MarAzul

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    Then we have this! GFY!
     
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    Keeping guns from criminals is not a Democrat issue.
     
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  4. MarAzul

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    This law was passed entirely by Democrats. Criminals do not care what laws you and the Democrats like. I doubt they even read the fucking things.
    So go preach your tripe to someone else, you sound like another fucking fool to me.
     
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    You don't. There is no such thing as a gun fairy or gun easter bunny and no matter how fun or cool it might sound you have no right to hop up and down the neighborhood and hand out guns. If your neighbors want to own guns you can drive them down to the local gun shop, fill out the background check for them and give them the money to buy it. Then it's their gun and their responsibility.
     
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  6. MarAzul

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    Ha! Kiss my ass! I broke no law and I don't ever want your permission.
     
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    Fool? I know where my guns are. By your own admission you don't know where yours are or how they are or aren't being used. Why you want to be so liberal with your guns is what is foolish.
     
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    You're just not getting it. I have no interest in giving you or anyone else permission on how they use their guns. Sounds like you're the one wanting to give permission to use a gun how you see fit.
     
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  9. MarAzul

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    Spot on Sly. When I need to do so, I will use my judgement.
     
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    Awesome! We agree on this! Common ground.

    Where you and I seem to differ is you also want the ability to judge who can use your guns outside of your family. Your family is your family, my family is my family. You don't want me telling your family how to use my guns and I don't want you telling my family how to use yours. All I'm asking for is to you to keep your guns to yourself.
     
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    Nope, not your call. I always have had more arms than I need for myself, for the purpose of arming help when I judge it to be a good idea. Whether I need the help or they do, I will judge the validity. I believe that is prudent and being prepared. Also, completely within the spirit of the 2nd amendment.
     
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    Wanting the right to arm anyone you personally see fit is not prudent. You wanting to play gun judge and give your guns to whomever you want is not prudent. I have no problem with you wanting to help arm your neighbors legally. But for you to feel that anyone should have the right to arm anyone they want is... is... not prudent.
     
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    It's not your job to change what he said.

    He said he took an oath to uphold The Constitution. That is true.

    And I would hope that everyone who takes an oath, any oath, realizes what that means and follows through on it.

    Or all is lost.
     
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    The tri-counties contribute zilch to rural counties.
     
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    Any time a record is made of a gun sale, theft, or transfer, it's previous and current owners become part of the Federal "gun owner list". For instance, they know the first gun I bought for myself in the 80's. model, caliber, s/n...

    The Second Amendment was written to prevent such a list from ever being possible.
     
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  17. MarAzul

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    Sly you are surprisingly obtuse. I have the right to bare arms, So does my neighbor. We have the right to associate together for mutual protection or what ever. If he has no arms, I have every right to lend him one when I find it prudent. You can not say it is not an infringement on his rights to prohibit me from lending him arms, or my right to associate with him or her.
    Many men brought their arms to the militia, but most were armed by their associates in the militia. John Hancock armed a militia. Now what the fuck is an immigrates son doing, saying he had no right to do so?
     
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    Yes you do. I agree.

    Again I agree.

    Sure, why not. I agree with that also.

    No. You can sell him a gun for $1. You can take him to a gun shop. You can give him money. You have no right to lend or give anyone a gun. Lending him a gun on the gun range or hunting is fine but you can't give people guns to take home. The gun is no longer in your control.

    Yes, you can form a militia. You have that right. But you do not have the right to be gun mother for a militia and start handing out guns. You can give everyone who joins your militia money to buy guns. You can sell everyone in your militia your guns.

    Labeling something a militia so people can give out guns is not something you can do. "Hey, we're not the Crips, we're the Crips Militia, everyone line up so I can give you a gun!" "Today we will be known as the Black Lives Matter Militia! Guns for everyone!"
     
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  19. Denny Crane

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    I suggested severe penalties for the use of guns in crimes. If a person uses a gun in a crime, it's an automatic 20 year sentence (or something like that). If someone uses your gun, you are responsible.

    Let MarAzul loan out his guns as he sees fit.

    He isn't arming criminals.
     
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    silly Sly, black people can't form militias
     
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