Infringement of the 2nd amendment nullified by Ballot measure

That's an interesting sentiment...

You know what the neighbors always say when they haul off a guy for being a serial killer? "He seemed like such a nice guy."

 

I'm saying you kinda have that serial killer vibe. Obviously.

 

That sound emotional, rather than logical. That is usually where Democrats make a mistake. You can't point to a law that supports your assertion that will be enforced in my county or many other counties in Oregon. Only the law the Democrats recently passed and it would have made criminal of John Hancock if enforced. Sorry Sly, but your view is shallow and fails to allow for people coming together, associating for mutual protection in face of a threat. Ridiculous it is actually, the need to go to a place where a background check can be done, thumb prints taken and all, that is 50 miles away is something a Portlander can't comprehend, but it sure as hell is an infringement of your rights.

 

Actually it is more than likely those groups will continue their practices, you are just objecting to me doing what I have done for many years quite legally.

 

Mar aside, do you trust everyones judgement on this?

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I actually support @Denny Crane idea of punishing the gun owner if his gun is used in a crime. I think if you make the owner responsible for their weapon, they would be less likely to loan it out. It's one thing to let people shoot your gun at a range with them. It's entirely another to say "oh here you go, now don't you do anything stupid!"

 

Weired! People blame the driver of the car in Oklahoma for running down people at a parade, but when a gun is involved they want to blame the Gun.
Actually a gun is a tool and it is owned by the person holding it. It only does bidding of the person holding it, same as the car, it only goes where you drive it.
I don't know why you attach any more significance to a gun than any other tool used in a dastardly act.

 

Make sure to report stolen guns ASAP, that is, if you notice it gone..

 

That's a good thing really. Gun owners would be on top of their guns.

I wouldn't go as far as 20 years in prison though! Lol

 

I don't agree with that at all. If someone steals your car and plows 10 people to death, you aren't responsible. If someone robs your home and uses your gun to go on a killing spree, you should be responsible either.

 

Except we have laws that do not allow felons or people convicted of domestic violence to own guns. So if you were to provide a gun, no questions asked, to a guy convicted of domestic violence and he were to go kill his ex-wife, should you not be held accountable for providing a firearm to someone who cannot legally purchase one himself? If he were to steal it from you, that's one thing, but if you gladly hand over your weapon without doing any due diligence, shouldn't you be held accountable?

I agree that the current system is not realistic for doing background checks. I think the Feds should open up the NICS so that we can do our own background checks online.

 

So, what's going to happen when the State Patrol gets involved and enforces the law? Or what is to stop someone from suing a seller who sold a gun violating state law that harmed another?