What's a good gun for concealed carry?

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Please don't call them gangbangers, the Marazul approved PC term is minority militia.
     
  2. MarAzul

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    Well if you think about it Sly, we have the right to bear arms and we are free to associate. Sometimes you are not armed as well as you should be if your neighbor has no arms, but you are free to fix it, that is what militias do. John Hancock did it, and Americans have done it since this Country was founded. We have been free to use our judgement in this matter for years now without involving the Government. If that is to change then some Amendments need to pass the process, not just a new law, partisan as hell being imposed. You may want to subject yourself (and the rest of us) to a nanny state approval for every action, but I don't. I feel very responsible for my actions. Actually, I think all this fear these days over guns, is do to people growing up with no knowledge or training with weapons, it gets worse as time marches on.

    Yes the Chief does agree, so does the Sheriff.
     
  3. MarAzul

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    Ha! Well in any case, what ever the name you chose, they are not going to read your friggin law what ever it is you want to impose on me.
     
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    Agree I just smoked cigars with 3 deputies the other night. Good guys.
     
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    Wait, so you are why gangsters call each other dog? It all makes sense now.
     
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    For hopefully the last time, I support gun rights and I own guns. We have the right to own guns. And yes, I do believe that we have the right to associate and make friends. We do not have the right to give those friends guns whenever we want. I have said to you before, if you want to help your friends buy guns, drive them to the gun range to train them to shoot, fill out background checks for them, even give them money to buy guns, all of that is fine. But you do not have the right to wander around your neighbor and arm your neighbors.

    I'll tell you what, send me the names of your Police Chief and Sheriff and I will find their email addresses, I will ask them exactly what you're saying they've already agreed to. We will see if they really want people handing out guns whenever and to whomever they want.
     
  7. MarAzul

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    Is it just me you object too, or do you also feel John Hancock was wrong?

    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
    - Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

    "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
    - Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

    "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
    - Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

    “A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
    - Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

    If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
    - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28
     
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    I don't want John Hancock wandering around handing out muskets to your friends either.

    But if you see him ask him for one for me, I would love to own a musket.
     
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    So I end it here. Like most others that want to infringe upon peoples rights and subject them to the control of the state, you are not prepared to do it by amending the Constitution. Just pass a law and be done with it. Real surprising coming from man that can think. You know and I know you know, it will not stop one crimal from doing a criminal act. It would only stop people that wish to abide by the laws. However, this time those people are saying enough, you do not alone hold the power to subject us to the approval of the state where no approval right has been granted by the people.

    Geez, I wish everyone understood this advice;

    "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
     
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    why have laws at all? criminals will always break them (by definition). If we have no laws, we'll have no criminals!

    I agree we should amend the constitution. And eventually it will happen, but probably be at least another 20 years or so.

    barfo
     
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    I watched that repeat at least 7 times!
     
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    Kinda talked yourself into a circle there.
     
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    I agree with the M&P shield but I like the 9mm.

    I also love my Glock 19. It is 9mm as well.

    I highly recommend 9mm because you can get cheap ammo to practice and the defense rounds are more than powerful enough.
     
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    Agreed. I have a 9mm, and some people think it's not strong enough, but if you shoot someone in the right spots it's more than fine (I think small dicked people think it's not powerful enough)

    It depends though, if it's for home defense, I'm going shotgun or revolver over semi auto.
     
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    If you use the hollow points, it hits plenty hard :grin:
     
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    I really enjoyed that series last year, haven't gotten a chance to watch season two.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Exactly. Try getting along with those with whom you disagree, instead of living life on an ego trip. Some people think life is a competition to prove they're better than everyone.
     
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    This looks pretty good.

     

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