Was Hillary pandering to conservatives?

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  1. MarAzul

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    That was pretty much inline with all religions in the world. It is doubtful any conservatives will vote for her now and this is just one many reasons since most do indeed think marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. So has she changed her belief to at least gather the gay vote? Or is the woman just loose with the truth?
     
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    Like any of you were going to if she hadn't changed her mind on this?

    If you look around, you'll see that a significant fraction of Americans also changed their view on that subject. Maybe that means she blows with the wind; maybe it means she's in tune with the public. Spin as you wish.

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    The Clintons treat truth like a lump of clay. Mold it into whatever form is polling well that day.
     
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    She is also trying to pander Bernie fans with her new look.

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    Cute analogy, but there is no objective truth on this subject. Whether she's for it or against it is entirely up to her to decide.

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    Unless she lies about it.

    Her telling the truth is a rare thing.
     
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    [List of lies told by Denny's favorite republican candidates at the last debate... except that I'm too lazy to type them in, and Denny would just say "I'm not a Republican (I just happen to defend all republicans all the time)" ]

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    I don't have any favorite republican.

    I'm just kinda insulted when someone bends the truth about them, or democrats for that matter.

    Mags' KKK and Nazi claims about Sanders and social democracy are beyond absurd.

    Oh my, I just defended a democrat.
     
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    Better get that checked, it might grow if you aren't careful.

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    No objective truth on this subject? But I thought she said it was a "sacred bond". I guess it was sacred until the polls changed. Remember when she had to duck under sniper fire in Bosnia? Yeah, nobody else did either. Hillary is a congenital liar.
     
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    Apparently telling war stories leads to exaggeration. Did I ever tell you about the time that Brian Williams and I were on patrol in Vietnam and we came upon 10,000 Viet Cong? Killed them all we did, and we didn't even have weapons. Just used our teeth and mud from the rice paddies.

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    Naw! I doubt anyone that believes marriage is scared bond between a man and a woman, has changed their mind. A number of people may have changed their mind as to whether Gays
    should be allowed legally marry, but that is a different question. To make that happen, the definition Marriage needed to be changed. As it apparently stands now, the legal definition, is now
    different than the definition accepted by most religions and people that viewed it as a sacred bond. It is more like the state imposing a definition on religion in violation of the 1st amendment.
    The argument of the violation of the 14th amendments equal justice was alway bogus unless you changed the definition of marriage.
     
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    Geez! That is a scary looking thing in the suit.
     
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    Hillary should get the same treatment as Williams.
     
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    So, as an equal opportunity critic, why is that you criticize Hillary for "lying" (in quotes because I'm not sure how you can possibly know whether she lied, then or now, about her position on gay marriage) but defended Carson when he lied the other night?

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    She lied about being shot at. That's the least of it.

    She lied about cattle futures, rose law firm billing records, and numerous other questionable legal or ethical activities. She lied about Benghazi and her emails. Some things never change: her being legally/ethicality challanged and you defeding her no matter the evidence.
     
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    Carson didn't lie. He was in no position to influence any of the company's decisions other than to hire him as a speaker. I see little difference in his "association " with the company than yours with bayer when you bought aspirin.
     
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    Who said anything about him influencing the company's decisions?

    What Carson said is that he had "no involvement" with them, and that to say he did was "propaganda".

    But in fact, not only did he make speeches for them, he recorded product endorsement videos, he once claimed that they'd funded his chair at Johns Hopkins (whether they did or not cannot be proven, but he is on tape saying that they did), he appeared on their website...

    To say he had "no involvement" is just a lie.

    Then you've got blinders on. I don't recall recording any videos for Bayer. They didn't pay me to speak at their conferences. I'm not on their webpage....

    You are defending a lie.

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    I'm not, actually, defending her. All I've said is that there is no way, with respect to her position on gay marriage, to tell whether she is lying (about her true beliefs) or not. It's not provable one way or the other.

    Where as you are defending Carson in what is very clearly, provably, a lie. And you don't seem to object to any of the other lies offered up that night, either. Interesting, no?

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    There was a fact check on Carson and most everything he's claimed have been misleading or lies.
     

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