Was Hillary pandering to conservatives?

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  1. e_blazer

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    Not voting for Trump. Not voting for Carson. Sure as hell not voting for Hillary (did you ever notice even her name includes the letters in the word "liar"?)

    At this point it's either Bernie or Rubio, with the choice depending on how crazed I feel come election day.
     
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    Oh, sorry, what was the criteria again? Complaining. Show me where I complained.

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    You won't necessarily have either of those choices come election day.

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    Who's lying now?

    http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/blog/2015/10/why-ben-carson-could-be-bad-for-mannatechs.html

    A 2011 video uncovered by the Wall Street Journal shows Carson making the following statement to Mannatech associates during a keynote address at a company convention:

    “Well three years ago I had an endowed chair bestowed upon me. And uh, it requires $2.5 million to do an endowed chair and I’m proud to say that part of that $2.5 million came from Mannatech.”

    The Benjamin S. Carson Sr. M.D. and Dr. Evelyn Spiro R.N. Professorship in Pediatric Neurosurgery was announced by Johns Hopkins Medicine in 2008, three years before the speech.

    Carson’s campaign has roundly denied Mannatech’s help in securing the fellowship, telling the Journal “there was no contribution from Mannatech to Johns Hopkins.”

    “It was a legitimate mistake on his part. Confusion,” the campaign statement added. “He had been doing some fundraising for the hospital and some other chairs about that time, and he simply got things mixed up.”

    Mannatech also denied giving any money.

    "Mannatech has had several departments review their files and there is simply no record of Mannatech Inc. providing a donation to Johns Hopkins, or Dr. Carson’s endowed chair at Johns Hopkins," Mannatech said in an emailed statement to the Dallas Business Journal. "If Dr. Carson said that Mannatech had provided a donation to his endowed chair at Johns Hopkins, he was mistaken."
     
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    Every post.
     
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    Not good enough.

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    Sounds like Ben Carson is lying. Either in 2011 or now. Take your pick.

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    Wikipedia defines "lie" thus:

    A lie is a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false.

    Known and intended are key words.
     
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    It's true, though.

    You're whining about Carson in this thread. We're used to it. Seen it enough.
     
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    Neither. You lose.
     
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    Yeah, he's just prone to making mistakes about who pays his salary. It's an easy thing to forget.

    I will make a small prediction: more to this story will come out later this election cycle, and it will not be a positive for Mr. Carson.

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    I'm not whining. I'm pointing out that he lied. Apparently you think that disagreeing with you is whining. In which case reality is whining, not me.

    But, I should stop saying that, not because it isn't true, but because I really want him to get the nomination.

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    You are going on and on about it, complaining about my analogy, and insisting Carson lied on this meaningless issue in the face of the facts showing otherwise.

    Be careful what you wish for or we may end up with president Carson.
     
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    Now you're complaining about who paid his salary?

    It was the speaker's bureau that paid him for those speeches, and Johns Hopkins paid his salary.
     
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    You are going on and on about it too. Takes two to tango!

    Your analogy was stupid, sorry. Try to do better next time, m'kay?

    You are the one ignoring facts, and yes, it is a relatively meaningless issue - except for the fact that he lied about it. That makes it meaningful. It's always the coverup...

    I'm willing to take that chance. I have faith in the American people.

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    You're whining about a non lie to cover for Hillary's serious ones.

    Transparent as hell.
     
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    You've never heard of a write-in vote?
     
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    Nope, not defending Hillary at all. She seems capable of defending herself, and I'll leave her to do so. I thought the Benghazi hearing was idiotic, because it didn't achieve the goals of the Republicans and made them look petty. That's not a defense of Hillary, that's an attack on Trey Gowdy.

    And there were lots of other lies at that debate, some more egregious. We just happen to be talking about this one because you for some reason decided to deny reality.

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    Good point.

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    You repeated DailyKOS' lie (i saw it there, maybe you have another site you repeat lies from).

    None of the "lies" you whine about are egregious. Not like lying about the reasons a US ambassador was killed on her watch. Trey Gowdy exposed those lies and the FBI is investigating. Yeah, that's petty /greenfont
     

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