Trump Dominating polls, even with RINO plants sabotage him

He did in the first interview. But on the second, he is referring to the refugees that come in should have some sort of tracking. Do you agree?

 

http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-muslims-id/

Demerit Badge

Claim: Donald Trump stated that Muslims should be made to wear identifying badges.

WHAT'S TRUE: Donald Trump was asked in an interview about whether Muslims should be subject to special scrutiny, a question he answered ambiguously.

WHAT'S FALSE: Donald Trump asserted that Muslims should wear identifying badges. After the rumor initially circulated, Trump doubled down on his nebulous responses in a New York Times article.

Example: [Collected via e-mail and Twitter, November 2015]

Any truth to the statements attributed to Donald Trump. tag line: "Trump crosses the Nazi line: Maybe Muslims should wear special ID badges" Reported by Raw Story. "(1) The real estate tycoon and reality TV star said he was open to registering U.S. Muslims in a special database, in addition to requiring them to publicly identify themselves by their faith." (2) "Trump also refused to rule out warrantless searches as part of his call for increased surveillance of Muslim houses of worship, and he has also suggested that U.S. mosques could be shut down if they are deemed to be a security threat — although he’s not certain that’s legal."

Trump goes Full Adolf: Muslims should be forced to carry special IDs: https://t.co/aKW95ADQb9

— G. Willow Wilson (@GWillowWilson) November 19, 2015

Donald Trump Says Muslims Should Be Forced To Wear Special ID Badges https://t.co/768Ccgrmtu WHAT A FOOL!! pic.twitter.com/mxaxSqpV6K

— JS2 (@___JS2) November 19, 2015

Origins: On 19 November 2015 web site The Hill published an article titled "Trump won't rule out database, special ID for Muslims in US," which reported on an interview given by Donald Trump after a series of terror attacks in Paris on 13 November 2015:

“Certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy,” he added. “We’re going to have to do things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

Trump would not rule out warrantless searches in his plans for increased surveillance of the nation’s Muslims, Yahoo reported Thursday.

He also remained open toward registering U.S. Muslims in a database or giving them special identification identifying their faith, the news outlet added.

“We’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump continued. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

The comments attributed to Trump caused immediate controversy on Twitter, where a number of users compared the described mandating of badges to similar treatment of Jews in Europe before the Holocaust. However, The Hill was a secondary source for the comments, originally published in a 19 November 2015 Yahoo! Politics articletitled "Donald Trump has big plans for ‘radical Islamic’ terrorists, 2016 and ‘that communist’ Bernie Sanders."

In the context of that interview, it's important to note that Trump's responses were non-committal. Furthermore, they were clearly in response to leading questions for which the actual phrasing wasn't even provided:

But Trump ... has concerns about the larger Muslim community here in the U.S., he said.

Yahoo News asked Trump whether his push for increased surveillance of American Muslims could include warrantless searches. He suggested he would consider a series of drastic measures.

“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule ... certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

Yahoo News asked Trump whether this level of tracking might require registering Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion. He wouldn’t rule it out.

“We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

Precisely how such a question was presented to Trump was not elaborated upon in the printed text of the interview, nor was what his exact response (not "rul[ing] it out") entailed. Moreover, the portions involving quotes were so exceptionally vague ("do things that we never did before," "certain things will be done") and full of obfuscation, it was impossible to discern even vaguely what Trump referenced. (The mandate of badges for Muslims was quite a leap by any measure.)

While it appeared Trump fielded a question about enhanced surveillance for Muslims and mosques, in no reasonable interpretation of the material provided did he himself suggest that followers of Islam should wear Holocaust-like badges as in Nazi Germany. That assertion appeared to be one fronted by the interviewer, and not fairly attributable to Donald Trump. It's true that Trump espoused a position many would deem objectionable or offensive in the little he did say, but the controversy hinged largely on words he didn't appear to have said.

On 20 November 2015, The New York Times published an article titled "Donald Trump Says He’d ‘Absolutely’ Require Muslims to Register." In that article Trump was pressed on his earlier statements, and he deflected the question in a similar vague fashion:

Donald J. Trump, who earlier in the week said he was open torequiring Muslims in the United States to register in a database, said on Thursday night that he “would certainly implement that — absolutely.”

Mr. Trump was asked about the issue by an NBC News reporter and pressed on whether all Muslims in the country would be forced to register. “They have to be,” he said. “They have to be.’’

When asked how a system of registering Muslims would be carried out — whether, for instance, mosques would be where people could register — Mr. Trump said: “Different places. You sign up at different places. But it’s all about management. Our country has no management.’’

Asked later, as he signed autographs, how such a database would be different from Jews having to register in Nazi Germany, Mr. Trump repeatedly said, “You tell me,” until he stopped responding to the question.

Last updated: 20 November 2015

Originally published: 19 November 2015

 

I discredit snopes for liberal bias. But this was such a lie that snopes couldn't ignore it, even with their bias

 

http://www.dailywire.com/news/1269/no-donald-trump-doesnt-want-register-all-american-ben-shapiro

No, Donald Trump Doesn't Want to Register All American Muslims. It's Just Another Media Smear.

Today, the media declared Donald Trump a Nazi. Why? Well, according to outlets ranging from NBC News to The New York Times, Trump endorsed the idea of registering all Muslims in the United States with the government.

There’s only one problem: he didn’t.

To understand what Trump actually said, it’s necessary to understand that Trump is essentially a Magic 8 ball when it comes to answering media questions without full information. Trump’s 2016 slogan is “Make America Great Again,” but his secondary slogan could be, “Wing It With The Donald.” His go-to answer when he’s asked questions about topics he doesn’t really get is something along the lines of, “We’re going to have to look at that.”

With that in mind, here’s how the “Trump as Muslim-registering Nazi” meme got going.

As Joel Pollak writes at Breitbart News, the idea of a Muslim database originated not with Trump but with a reporter for Yahoo! Trump declined to answer the question, probably because he didn’t understand it or its implications. So he gave his go-to “I don’t get it” answer: “We’re going to have to – we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely. We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

CNN quickly jumped on the story. Sara Murray asked Trump about a national Muslim database – to which Trump answered that he had no idea “where you heard that…I never responded to that question.” When pressed, Trump insisted, correctly, “I never responded to that question.” He declined to answer the question again – again, because Trump never rules things out when he doesn’t understand the proposal at hand. He stalls.

That didn’t stop the headlines. Next, NBC decided to ask about the Muslim database that originated in the head of a Yahoo! News reporter. “Should there be a database system that tracks the Muslims here in this country?” Trump answered, “There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now, we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.”


It’s clear from this exchange that Trump believes the NBC reporter, Vaughn Hillyard, is asking about new Muslim immigrants, not all Muslims currently in the United States – which is totally plausible, given the wording of the questions. After all, Trump has been discussing Muslim refugees, which is the national conversation, not all Muslims; the reporter then asks about “the Muslims here in this country,” to which Trump says that he’d register new Muslim immigrants coming into the country: “It would stop people from coming in illegally. We have to stop people from coming into our country illegally.”

Registration of new immigrants, by the way, is exactly the proposal made by the Obama administration; visas are a method of registration.

But now Hillyard and Trump are talking past one another. Hillyard asks, “Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims of this country?” The question is now more clearly worded, but Trump doesn’t hear it: his answer is all about illegal immigration again: “There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today, you can do it. But right now we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall and we cannot let what’s happening to this country…” At which point Hillyard interrupts him, asking “Is that something your White House would like to do?” Trump answers, “I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.”

Later, Hillyard, thinking he’s got Trump on the hook for registering all Muslims in Gestapo-like fashion, not just new Muslim immigrants, says, “Mr. Trump, why would Muslim databases not be the same thing as requiring Jews to register in Nazi Germany?” Trump, puzzled and annoyed, says, “You tell me.”

The media has jumped on all of this to suggest that Trump not only favors a Muslim database, but originated the idea. Sam Stein, the smear artist reporter for The Huffington Post, tweeted about “Trump’s Muslim database idea.” Timereported, “Donald Trump Is In Favor Of Legally Requiring American Muslims to Register on a Database.” MSNBC reported, “Trump crosses new line, endorses database for American Muslims.”

It’s clear from the conversations that Trump doesn’t know he’s being asked by NBC about registering all American Muslims rather than merely Muslim immigrants. That’s not an excuse for his bloviation and lack of clarity. But it does show the hypocrisy, once again, of a leftist media that refuses to treat Democrats by the same standard. For example, when Hillary Clinton was asked at a New Hampshire town hall meeting about Australia’s mass gun confiscation, she gave a Trumpian answer: she said it was “worth looking at.” Unlike Trump, however, she understood the question, as was clear from her full response. There were no headlines in major media about Hillary endorsing wholesale gun confiscation.

That’s the way this game works. The media have learned Trump’s Magic 8 ball routine, so they’ll just begin asking him more and more ridiculous questions, waiting for him to say, “We’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” then label his cryptic answer an endorsement of their ridiculous policy proposals. Trump should be ready for it. So should Americans.

 

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2..._claim_donald_trump_said_register_all_muslims

Drive-Bys Lie and Claim Donald Trump Said Register All Muslims
RUSH: The Drive-Bys are trying to destroy the two leading Republicans again today, Donald Trump and Ben Carson. They are doing a terrific job of taking Trump out of context. He was leaving the stage, I guess it was last night, he was doing a personal appearance somewhere, he was leaving the stage, he's finished, and a Drive-By gets amongst the autograph speakers and starts peppering him with questions. He answered a question and it's how the reporter is purposely misinterpreting it to say that Donald Trump last night said that he's in favor of a registration database of all Muslims in the US, and everybody in the Drive-Bys has run with it, and he didn't say it. We have the audio sound bite coming up to illustrate it.

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RUSH: Now, I don't know if you have seen it yet today. There are stories all over the Drive-By Media -- the Associated Press, Yahoo News, I mean, it's everywhere -- that Donald Trump supposedly is calling for the registration of all Muslims in America. Trump is demanding that they all be registered and that a massive database be collected. CNN is all over reporting this. Even the Wall Street Journal has picked up on it. There's a problem, though: Trump didn't say it. I'm gonna tell you what happened. At a recent public appearance Trump's coming off the stage after one of his usual one hour to 90-minute appearances.

He's probably worn out and spent, and there's the usual crowd of autograph seekers and supporters and fans, and amongst them is a Drive-By Media reporter who says to Trump, "Should there be a database system that tracks the Muslims that are in this country?" Trump says, "There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we have to have a border. We have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what's happening to this country happen again." Reporter: "Is that something your White House would like to implement?"

There's no specificity there. The question is just, "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" Trump has given a multifaceted answer. She says, "Is that something," without specifying what she's asking about. Trump said, "Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely," and that's how they report that Trump "demands a database and registration for all Muslims," when he didn't say it! He never said it. It's a Journalism 101 trick. It's right out of the manual they teach you at the first year of journalism school in how to destroy political opponents or powerful people you don't like. It's that common a technique.

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RUSH: Now, I'm not sure, but I think that the reporter that asked Trump the question and has totally, totally twisted this purposefully to convey something that did not happen, I think the reporter works for Business Insider. I think the reporter is Hunter Walker. If that's who it is, you need to know that this guy is a major backer of Hillary Clinton, as most in the Drive-By Media are. He has written endless articles championing her, and now I think he writes for Yahoo News and is the Business Insider politics editor.

So here is how this happened. This is in Newton, Iowa, yesterday after a campaign event. Trump's leaving the stage, and a reporter says, "Should there be a database system to track Muslims in this country?" Now, nobody has suggested that, keep in mind. Trump has not suggested it. So the reporter's not asking a question bouncing off anything Trump has said. It's just a question thrown at Trump, and it comes to him in the midst of autograph seekers and fans and supporters wanting to meet him after his performance is finished.

TRUMP: There should be a lot of systems beyond database. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now we have to have a border. We have to have strength. We have to have a wall. And we cannot let what's happening to this country happen.

REPORTER: But is it something your White House would like to implement?

TRUMP: Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely.

REPORTER: What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work?

TRUMP: It would stop people from coming in illegally. We have to stop people from coming into our country illegally.

REPORTER: Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered into a database?

TRUMP: It would be just good management. What you have to do is good management procedures. And we can do that.

REPORTER: Would you go to mosques and sign these people up into the system?

TRUMP: Different places. You sign 'em up at different -- but it's all about management. Our country has no management.

RUSH: Okay. Now, two things about this. The first is, as I said, everybody in the Drive-By Media is running with this because they think they've got Trump again. They're salivating out there, folks, they are hoping, they've got their fingers crossed, they've doubled down, they're putting this story everywhere: Trump sexist, Trump bigoted, Trump anti-Muslim, wants a database; wants to go to their mosques to sign 'em up; wants to have them carry around symbols on their clothes to tell everybody who they are. And he never said it.

This reporter, Hunter Walker, retweeted the headline from the AP. The AP headline: "Trump Says He Would Absolutely Implement Muslim Database." This little know-nothing reporter is so proud of his work today. This, as I say, journalism 101. This is what they teach you when you want to take out a political opponent or a powerful person you don't like, this is how you do it, with innuendo.

Again, here's what happened. Trump comes offstage, "Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims that are in this country?" It's a setup question from the get-go. Nobody has suggested it. Trump said there should be a lot of systems beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it, but right now we have to have a border. We have to have strength. We have to have a wall, and we can't let what's happening to this country happen again.

He has not confirmed a database. He has not confirmed registration of Muslims. He's changed the question to his favorite subject, the wall and the border and keeping illegal immigrants out. The reporter says, "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" Not specifying. If anything, the guy's talking about the border. The last thing Trump said in his answer was talking about the border, strength, a wall. The reporter says, "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" There is nothing specified. The use of the word "that," the reporter then can say, "Well, I meant Muslim registration, look what Trump said, Trump knew what I was talking about."

But Trump's answer was, "Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely."

Reporter: "What do you think the effect of that would be?"

"It would stop people from coming in illegally." Trump's still talking about the border. He's still talking about the wall. He says, "We have to stop people from coming into this country illegally." So how in the world can Trump be talking about the registration of Muslims or anybody when he's still talking about keeping people out of the country? Muslims are here. This is a good, old-fashioned hatchet job by this low-rent reporter named Hunter Walker who's got everybody in the media reporting it the way he wants because this is what they want people to believe about Trump. This is what they believe about all Republicans. We're bigots, we're racists, sexists and so forth, and Trump's just come along and confirmed it. And I guarantee you there's a contest inside the Drive-By Media to see who can be the one to take Trump out.

Here is what they are forgetting. This isn't gonna hurt Trump. Even their journalistic malpractice is not gonna hurt Trump. They haven't figured that out. They keep applying standard, ordinary, everyday tactics on hit pieces to Donald Trump, and all that happens as a result is that Trump increases his support. Trump's support gets stronger. It gets deeper every time they try something like this because Trump is dead serious about protecting this country and its borders and keeping terrorists and so forth out of the country. He makes no bones about it. He's one of the only candidates that's unwavering on it. It's the number one issue.

And you combine what's happening with ISIS in Paris and border security, national security, protecting and defending the country and the people who live here is far and away the number one most important issue because everything descends from it. The economy descends from it. Jobs descend from it. Everything that matters descends from this country remaining a country. It has to have a border. That border has to be enforced. Trump's the only guy talking about. They think they've got him. They're gonna be crying in whatever it is they drink. This is not going to rip the bottom out of Trump's campaign. It's not gonna destroy Trump's campaign no matter how much they're lying, no matter how they try to distort this, because Trump did not say he's in favor of registration or a database of all Muslims in America.

And once again, what's gonna happen here is an ever increasingly aware and sophisticated public is gonna just get angrier and angrier at the usual childish tactics of the very unrespected Drive-By Media. Once the public learns what's happened here, the anger is not gonna be at Trump. There wouldn't have been that much anger at Trump anyway among his supporters. That's what they don't understand. You people in the media have got to understand something. You're gonna have to go about this a different way. You didn't make Trump; you can't destroy him. There's nothing you can do. And look at the lengths they're now going to try. Exactly what they did to Romney, by the way. This is no different than Harry Reid saying, "Mitt Romney hasn't paid his taxes in ten years." "Hey, look at Mitt Romney putting the family dog on top of the station wagon." "Hey, Mitt Romney, one of his employees' wives died of cancer, Romney didn't care, went ahead and canceled the health care plan, didn't care."

I don't think this guy's questions were even registering with Trump. I think Trump continued to talk with his own framework in mind, meaning his focus on the wall. Because if you continue on with the sound bite -- keep in mind here that Trump's never talked about registering or having a database of Muslims. The reporter asks a fake question: "Is that something your White House would do, like to implement?" Trump answers, "Yeah." He keeps talking about the wall. He keeps talking about the border. "Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely." Trump's still talking about the border.

The reporter says, "What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work?"

Trump: "It would stop people from coming in illegally." He's still talking about the border. He's still talking about his wall. "We have to stop people from coming in illegally."

Reporter: "For Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered in your database?" Trump has never said that he wants to register them in his database. He's talking about the wall. He's talking about the border. This idiot, talentless reporter says, "Well, for Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered in your database?" Trump says, "It would be good management. What you have to do is good management procedures, and we can do that." He's still talking about the wall. He's not even listening to this kid. He's walking out of there, he's answering the question, he's got it answered, he's on the wall, he's on the border, that's what he's talking about.

When it's all over the reporter makes it up that Trump's talking about registration of Muslims and a database. Totally makes it up. Anyway, I gotta take a break here. I just wanted you to see this. I wanted you to hear it, the reporter's own words, Trump's own words because it's been picked up everywhere, and, mark my words, the next poll that comes out, Trump's just gonna jump even higher and they're not gonna know what to do with themselves in the Drive-Bys. But you people in the media are gonna have to learn something. When you don't make somebody, you can't destroy him. And you haven't made Trump. The media has nothing to do with why Trump's where he is, and therefore you can't take him out. You can try, you may think you can, but he's got a bond, a connection with his supporters and his audience that you people are not gonna be able to break no matter how hard you try.

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RUSH: So you know how this works? I just got an e-mail from a friend of mine who plays around on Facebook, and he sent me a screenshot of his Facebook post that he sent out, and he wants me to know that he's on top things. He says, "Yeah, Trump wants to register all Muslims. The last guy that wanted to do that was Hitler with the Jews! Come on, folks! We're going backwards." So I just had to write him back: "Hey, buddy, you've got it 180 degrees wrong. Trump didn't say it!" This is a guy that reads the news all day. This is exactly how this happens. You've got every Drive-By news source now reporting this.

I'm not sure who the reporter was that actually got this whole thing started, but there are the suspects who have taken what that kid did and expanded it are all over the place. You could mention any Drive-By name out there and you'd be pretty close to being accurate about who did this. I'm not exactly sure who the reporter was at the Trump event. I was told one thing and now I'm told that that's not necessarily true. But the guy's name I gave you is still responsible for expanding, amplifying, and leading this. That Hunter Walker is who kicked it all off. Doesn't really matter.

I mean, they're all the same stripe, and they've all got the same objective here. And this e-mail I just got from a friend of mine -- who's not an idiot, and you know, he's not a casual consumer of news. It's in the Wall Street Journal. This guy's a financial guy. He read it in the Wall Street Journal, and the Wall Street Journal to these guys is gospel. I have tried to tell every friend of mine, and it's probably gone for naught. I've tried to tell them just based on the way I get covered, and they know me and they know what's written about me is all bogus. I said, "Could you not apply that to every story you hear, particularly about people you support?

"Could you just learn to not believe anything you read if it's defaming Republicans in the Drive-By Media? Could you just learn to be suspicious of it and try to confirm it on your own? (sigh) But it doesn't work that way. People believe it. "There it is! It's in print. It's right there," or, "It's on my screen, Rush! I mean, they can't write stuff that isn't true!" I can't tell you how often I hear that. So Trump's gonna... I don't know how he's gonna deal with this. He will, but... (sigh) Let me... I'm gonna go ahead and get in trouble myself here. Can I give you what I think might have happened with a lot of people when they first saw this BS story?

What do you think? You're driving around or you're reading or whatever and you hear, "Trump wants to register all Muslims!" (interruption) Yeah. (chuckles) Get my drift? So I'm just marveling here. I'm thankful for the opportunity. I'm thankful I haven't retired. I'm thankful I've still got this program and a chance to come here every day and illustrate the dishonest, the reprehensible, the just scummy way these people work. And each time I see something like this, I focus even more on, "They're not media!" This isn't media! This isn't the news. The media is the Democrat Party. The media is all part of the left-wing establishment that's trying to advance the Democrat Party agenda.

Every time I see a story like, "Trump has to fight media here or overcome media," I ask: Why would you have to overcome the media? The media's just a bunch of journalists telling people what happened who weren't there. (thumps table) Of course, this is the exact opposite. Everybody knows now, or many people. And even people who know what the media is, still get sucked in and believe this stuff. But when you read the transcript of what Trump said, when you actually read it or hear it and then compare it to the news being reported, you can't escape the fact that the media's making it up; that Trump never said it.

 

There are about 6 state polls where trump is way ahead, but I'm sure all you haters already saw, because you will troll them on here if they showed it going the other way.

 

Seems like many in here should be mentioned as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...inally-admits-trump-could-win-this-thing.html

This was at the end of October, but still applies

 

Carson is a weird situation. I think many evangelicals like his biography of being troubled and then God turned him around to be one of the most successful surgeons in the country. That can only last for a short while, which his foreign policy blunders dropped him down.

 

And "I saw it" is not "I read about it in the Washington Post"