"Tribal Poetry" ....^^^ very catching, first time I've heard that most proper fitting connotation used, as its very correct. Touche- I know of a deserted alleyway in downtown LA, they could hold their HOF for West Coast Crappers, and the same for East Side NY Tribal Spokesmen......on 2nd thought, ....
Rob I take it you're not a fan of 3 dog night but did you know that they had 18 top 20 hits. The group was amazing. How the hell does the HOF over look them? And if we're going to exclude Kool & the gang because of MOTOWN DISCO how do you explain Donna Summer being in the HOF?
I don't want to take anything away from The Real Boss-Sinatra, Como, Williams, Bennett or any other musician/vocalist, but here's where most of those not headed to the Rock n Roll HOF, but are headed to the "PoP HOF", no kidding: http://www.americaspopmusichalloffame.org/#!inductees/cd9g http://www.observer-reporter.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130923/NEWS01/130929734#.U9nUkfldUo5 Dean Martin could be “swaying” his way into America’s Pop Music Hall of Fame. Add to that the Bee Gees, whose legacy will be “stayin’ alive” if they are selected for the Canonsburg-based music museum, and Buddy Holly, who won’t “fade away” if he makes the cut. These are just three of the 25 groups and singers who have been nominated for the pop hall of fame, which is still in the planning stages. From that selection, which includes artists as diverse as the Supremes and Simon & Garfunkel, 10 new inductees will be chosen by popular vote on the music hall’s website. This is the second time the nominations board has reached out to the public to make the final decision. Last March, 14 artists were inducted into the hall of fame, including Frank Sinatra and Johnny Cash, as well as Canonsburg locals Bobby Vinton and Perry Como. Terry Hazlett, head of the nominations board, said thousands of people voted last year, and he was surprised that Johnny Mathis received more votes than Elvis and the Beatles. Hazlett said locals understand the concept of the pop hall of fame, which includes musicians who have had a score of Billboard hits, but may not fit the bill for Cleveland’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. “That meant a lot to us because it meant that the public got it, that it was a pop music hall of fame,” Hazlett said. “(Johnny Mathis) is a pop star. He’ll never, ever get in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.” A panel of eight local people selected nearly 50 artists who had a Billboard hit between 1945 and 1970. The list was then sent to disc jockeys, musicians and writers across the country, who narrowed the list to 25 nominees. Hazlett said the nominees were primarily judged on their popularity, but also their influence on culture. Hazlett said the board hopes to induct 10 new artists each year, and each year the nominees will include more recent artists. “We wanted to make sure some of the artists from the ’50s and ’60s got in before we started expanding into the ’70s and ’80s,” Hazlett said. “As long as there’s popular music, there will be people to induct. I don’t think we’ll run out of inductees any time soon.” Hazlett said he is personally rooting for the Monkees, who have never been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. “They were a terrific pop band,” Hazlett said. “They wrote songs, they played all the instruments. They very much deserve to be in a hall of fame, and I think they fit the bill perfectly.” Hazlett said museum coordinators have asked artists to send memorabilia, and they have received several guitars signed by musicians including country singer Vince Gill and rock band Paul Revere and the Raiders. An induction ceremony will be held next year in spring or fall, and a feasibility study is currently under way to determine what size the hall of fame should be. In addition to Martin, the Bee Gees, Holly, the Supremes, the Monkees and Simon & Garfunkel, nominated this year are the Carpenters, the Everly Brothers, Roy Orbison, the Platters, Andy Williams, Tony Bennett, Chicago, the Four Seasons, Elton John, Patti Page, Three Dog Night, Pat Boone, Dion, Connie Francis, Carole King, Ricky Nelson, Gene Pitney, Smokey Robinson & the Miracles and Dionne Warwick. Check this out Rick, there's more news on this link, than I'm copying, several stories here at this URL: http://www.americaspopmusichalloffame.org/#!news/c1hh4
I have always wondered how the R&R HOF got placed in Cleveland in the first place. Don't want to hear any of that Allen Freed Crap either. Freed was a DJ who pimped records. The term Rock & Roll was black peoples slang for getting it on God knows how many years before Freed came along. Sam Phillips had Presley, Cash, Orbison, Lewis and Perkins all under contract at his Memphis Based Sun operation. None of those five performers were from Cleveland. Neither were Berry, Domino, Halley or any of the other "founding acts". The R& R HOF should have been located in Memphis not in the "Mistake on the Lake". My significant other has a friend who is a retired agent who told me that it did not matter what the performers could do if they wanted to eat they had to depend on their agents to get them booked. Music is a wonderful art but a damn filthy business.
I recently saw that they have a POP music HOF but I'm unable to find a list of its current inductees. And seriously why a separate HOF for Pop music & not one for all the rap crap. The whole thing to me just doesn't make any sense. The Animals are in with 14 top 40 hits but a group like the Herman Hermits with 18 top 40 hits aren't. Like I said no rhyme or reason. I really wish I knew what they look at when making there decisions.
Check out my last post, just logged, for the "PoP Music HOF", they're noted..... Yep, My Sisters had every single one of their LP's, I actually enjoyed 3 Dog Doo Doo's tunes, but like I said, they burned me out rapidly, blame it on 6 Sisters, who listened to Bread, The Monkees, Bobby Sherman (WTF), The Partridge Family, Mungo Jerry, The Cowsils; of course they all loved Karen Carpenter and her brother, but then honestly who would say they didn't enjoy at least one if not several Carpenter's tunes, as you mentioned prior....! My Seesters would buy 45s of The Brady Bunch had they made a record, and no kidding, they fell for 'The Archies' (hey sugah sugah); Herman and the Hermits, in lieu of The Beatles, or Stones, hell it took me forever to get one sister rehabilitated from Bubble Gum Pop, to real rock n roll, and CCR did the trick, as did James Taylor, Crosby-Stills and Nash, hell even the Beach Boys, the Mamas and Papas, Lovin Spoonfull were a improvement over their own tastes for bubble gum. I'm not trying to take anything away from Pop, its just never been my music, less of course the Great Legendary Crooner's, Sinatra, Como, Williams, Bennett, et al. Hell Harry Connick Jr., Buble would sound great accompanying the Rat Pack, maybe overlay tracks, like Nat King Cole's Daughter did with her Dad's music on One LP. Then again, if you look at the POP HOF list of inductees, there is a large assortment for existing only 2 years now. so where does that leave Tom Jones and Englebert Humperdink....? Not that I'm curious, but my Sisters would be.....(chuckle)... It was a hoot of Golden Days, when I did my best to drown out my Sisters Luggage looking Mono Record Player, and since they never worked, and I did, I had bigger louder toys, ie 100 Watt Amp, Ultralinear- Studio Monitors of speakers...., back then 100 Watts was like a magnet for music buffs to congregate too. Not found in a typical Big Wooden Stereos, ie, Curtis Mathes, Magnavox or RCA. They- (my 6 seesters) still only know music that's on the Billboard Top 40, (less One convert). Of course their fav music show each week was, "Top 40- Countdown with Casey Kasem".......but who didn't listen to Kasem...? I did most Saturdays at Noon.....
Here you go: http://www.americaspopmusichalloffame.org/#!inductees/cd9g Note: post #23, has a link for that list of inductees noted above, while the other 2 links, reveal upcoming nominees....
Here's how Cleveland was chosen, but IMO, it should of never left NYC https://rockhall.com/visit-the-museum/learn/history-and-overview/ Officials from Cleveland and the state of Ohio approached the Foundation in 1985 and suggested the construction of a major museum. “We originally planned to purchase a brownstone in New York City in which to house the Hall of Fame, as well as an archive, library and museum,” said Suzan Evans. In November, the city sent a delegation to New York. “They had these wonderful diagrams for a museum that would be much larger than any town house we had originally thought of,” said Evans. “Our eyebrows were raised, and somebody at the meeting actually passed me a note that said, ‘Pack your bags.’” As the Foundation considered the offer, several other cities, including New York, Philadelphia, New Orleans, San Francisco, Memphis and Chicago, also made offers. The board members visited each city and were greeted with police escorts, public rallies and marching bands. The first induction dinner was held at New York’s Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in January 1986. Inductees include Chuck Berry, James Brown, Ray Charles, Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, the Everly Brothers, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis Presley and Little Richard. Robert Johnson, Jimmie Rodgers and Jimmy Yancey were honored as early influences. The first non-performers honored were producer Sam Phillips and disc jockey Alan Freed. Talent scout/producer John Hammond was recognized with a Lifetime Achievement award. Meanwhile, Cleveland ranked first in a public poll conducted by USA Today asking where the Hall of Fame should be located. After much competition and many visits to potential sites by Foundation members, Cleveland is chosen as the permanent home for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in May of 1986. - See more at: https://rockhall.com/visit-the-museum/learn/history-and-overview/#sthash.LddaijHt.dpuf
There appears to be some kind of petty bul!sh't politics involved with the nomination and "election process" when classic great groups (imo) such as Steppenwolf, The Moody Blues and Jethro Tull are not in while a few others who were primarily "R&B" or "pop" artists ARE in.
I can't explain why Donna Summer is in any HOF, but let me try. The Panel of Voters were doing too much Nose Candy, while dancing to her tunes under a mirrorball, reliving those Disco Crazed daze, I mean days....yep, "that's the ticket".... Alot of this all doesn't make sense does it Rick.....? Some seem to get a free pass, and others who have sold more records, had more of an influence on music of their generation, don't even get a wink, let alone a nod.....! I just realized we have a "disco" emoticon, believe it or not.....
I have a a feeling about disco, I think many of the people who knock it today were lined up outside the movie theater in the mid 70s waiting to get into Saturday night fever. or shaking there asses at places like Studio 54. Me, I was a fan & scored a lot of ass back then (Sorry Lillie).
Now don't be sorry Rick, in the late 80's I was at Streets in New Rochelle with my fake ID doing the same thing.
Disco: I thought it sucked, was in Europe when the craze got started, still in vogue when I came back to the States. Found the Disco Music Fans to be as phony and plastic as the genre itself.
Disco always sucked. Greasy hair dudes with fake hair chests . White jacket, pants and stupid shoes. Aqua Velva applied in pints all over themselves. I hated it because I was always a Rock guy. Bass players like myself appreciated the octive and hammer on tricks but all along we thought of it as an adult spit on a kids head. KC had his blood sucked out due to his formaldyhyde skin texture. Coke freaks and flashy creeps for sure.....
Robert Palmer!!!!! Power Station Androgenous chicks. Trick Bag. What a travisity The Hall of Fame Is Bogus. The polka band hall of fame would be more legit!
I wore my "Death Before Disco" shirt with pride. Upon my return from Germany in '77 I got stationed at Carlisle Barracks Pa. Was not happy finding that all the clubs in the local area to include Harrisburg featured Disco. Did find a club in Lancaster 55 miles away that still had rock bands coming in on the weekend. The drive was worth it, much preferred dancing to the Rock & Roll as opposed to that tinny sounding Disco Shit.
Michael I also prefer music of the 50s & 60s, I would take it over any other type of music all day BUT, Mid 70s was a new thing called disco that took off & I have to admit I enjoyed a lot of it. I'd rather my Duprees, Earls, Jive five, Platters etc but I could hit a disco from time to time. As a matter of fact I was at the disco on bell blvd in Queens the night Son of Sam struck in 77.
