Why Black Lives Matter movement is bullshit

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  1. MarAzul

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    Sigh!
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    I'd like to think that is a good thing. It says to me that the black "threat" is more imagined than real. And maybe...just maybe...you were in the wrong place at the wrong time....just because I'm a "free" white man doesn't mean I can go anywhere I want without consequences. A bad neighborhood is a bad neighborhood, and trash is trash, regardless of color. And out of curiosity, is it less terrifying to have a white man pull out a knife and threaten to cut you from pecker to chin....??
     
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    Don't know! I have never had the experience. But my guess would be, probably not. And I don't know if the Black guy in the street with the knife would have pulled up the memory either.

    No doubt you are correct, I might even have had the thought at the time. I was on Shore Patrol duty in a place called Olongapo, a bar I think it was. I only had my Baton though, so I didn't take the guy on. Just asked my partner to call for back up while we played stare.
     
  4. MarAzul

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    Come to think of it, I never knew a white man to pack a shiv! A .38 maybe, perhaps even a .22. Never for show though.
     
  5. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I had a Vietnamese guy coming to my house with a gun because I kept insulting his momma. I wasn't there but he would definitely need the gun.
     
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    There's a video (saw it on Facebook and I'm sure Denny can find it) of a white man attempting to stab a police officer and he's taken into custody alive and well. The officer had the wherewithal to reach ACROSS his body and reach for his taser.

    That simply doesn't happen to us.
     
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    Stupid straw man argument. You're operating on the SILLY ASS notion that BLM means only black lives matter. Typical white privilege response.

    I've tried to explain but it continues to fall on deaf, privileged ears.

    It means:

    Hello, Black Lives Matter Too.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    FTFY
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Maybe that's what it means to you, but not the majority of BLM protesters who chant vile and hateful shit.
     
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    Yeah you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You don't even know anyone in the movement. Admit it.
     
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    All racism is bad. But truthfully, how does black racism affect you? It affects us in housing, health care, jobs, the list goes on. Blacks being racist to you doesn't affect your housing. You want to talk about white slaves but whites never had to worry about segregation and Jim Crow laws. White people don't have to worry about fake voter ID laws that disenfranchise black voters. White people never had their Wall Street bombed by the government either. Your false equivocation again shows your bias.
     
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    Again, the people that keep acting like the BLM movement won't help us all with regard to police contact and to keep disparaging them says more about you than it does about us.
     
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    Do you know you just said you found it frightening that I didn't think racism is part of the situation? You actually said that in response to a post where I acknowledge racism is part of the problem (and as I've stated in numerous posts in this thread) but said I was frightened by those that claim the situation ALL about racism. It's hard to take your personal perspective seriously when you're putting words in people's mouths or changing them altogether.

    In my brief existence on this earth, I have noticed that those that call out others as liars the loudest are actually the biggest liars. Those that call out thievery loudest are actually the biggest thieves. Those that claim others as racists are indeed the biggest racists. Conversely, those that praise others the loudest likely are worthy of being showered heavily in praise. We are all liars, thieves, racists in some form or another, and we all have worthy qualities. You ever hear the saying, "it takes one to know one,"?

    I have no beef with you, but I oftentimes sit back and laugh at people on S2 arguing with one another when it's apparent one person is skimming and not really reading posts they respond to. And it goes on for days. This is one of those times.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

    In the United States, redlining is the practice of denying services, either directly or through selectively raising prices, to residents of certain areas based on the racial or ethnic makeups of those areas. While some of the most famous examples of redlining regard denying financial services such as banking or insurance,[2] other services such as health care [3] or even supermarkets,[4] can be denied to residents to carry out redlining.[5] The term "redlining" was coined in the late 1960s by John McKnight, a sociologist and community activist.[6] It refers to the practice of marking a red line on a map to delineate the area where banks would not invest; later the term was applied to discrimination against a particular group of people (usually byrace or sex) irrespective of geography.

    During the heyday of redlining, the areas most frequently discriminated against were black inner city neighborhoods. For example, in Atlanta in the 1980s, a Pulitzer Prize-winning series of articles by investigative-reporter Bill Dedman showed that banks would often lend to lower-income whites but not to middle- or upper-income blacks.[7] The use of blacklists is a related mechanism also used by redliners to keep track of groups, areas, and people that the discriminating party feels should be denied business or aid or other transactions. In the academic literature, redlining falls under the broader category of credit rationing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_racism

    Environmental racism is placement of low-income or minority communities in proximity of environmentally hazardous or degraded environments, such as toxic waste, pollution and urban decay. While there are competing views as to an exact definition, the interplay between environmental issues and social indicators are key to its understanding.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

    White flight is a term that originated in the United States, starting in the mid-20th century, and applied to the large-scale migration of whites of various European ancestries from racially mixed urban regions to more racially homogeneous suburban or exurban regions.

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    In her study of Chicago's West Side during the post-war era, historian Amanda Seligman argues that the phrase misleadingly suggests that whites immediately departed when blacks moved into the neighborhood, when in fact, many whites defended their space with violence, intimidation, or legal tactics.[13]

    The business practices of redlining, mortgage discrimination, and racially restrictive covenants contributed to the overcrowding and physical deterioration of areas where minorities chose to congregate. Such conditions are considered to have contributed to the emigration of other populations. The limited facilities for banking and insurance, due to a perceived lack of profitability, and other social services, and extra fees meant to hedge against perceived profit issues increased their cost to residents in predominantly non-white suburbs and city neighborhoods.[14][15] According to the environmental geographer Laura Pulido, the historical processes of suburbanization and urban decentralization contribute to contemporary environmental racism.[16]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

    Institutional racism (also known as institutionalised racism) is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions, as distinct from racism by individuals or informal social groups. It is reflected in disparities regarding criminal justice,employment, housing, health care, political power and education, among other things. Whether implicitly or explicitly expressed, institutional racism occurs when a certain group is targeted and discriminated against based upon race. Institutional racism can go unnoticed as it is not always explicit and can be overlooked. Institutional racism was defined by Sir William Macpherson in the 1999 Lawrence report (UK) as: "The collective failure of an organisation to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their colour, culture, or ethnic origin. It can be seen or detected in processes, attitudes and behaviour which amount to discrimination through unwitting prejudice, ignorance, thoughtlessness and racist stereotyping which disadvantage minority ethnic people."[1]

    "I was once denied a loan, therefore the system is fair."
     
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    Denny,

    You've been redlining S2 for years. I'm unclear how exactly, but the fact that Sly is a mod is somehow clear evidence of this.
     
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    Ha! So tiny all you need to was scratch, heh! Dviss might be just as funny. I get the impression he needs a wheelbarrow to pack his jaw around.
     
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    What's going on with the police is part of the institutionalized racism in the justice system.

    You asked questions, you got your answers.

    Yes, it's racism.
     
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    You never really answered my question.

    If you think racism is the entire problem, you'd be incorrect.
     
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    The reason there is no white lives matter movement is whites aren't discriminated against routinely.

    I think the problem is the execution of black men by police on top of the general punitive treatment of black neighborhoods on the whole.

    Like I said earlier, the people in Watts get it when they see over the top treatment of people that look like them in Baltimore. They're all being mistreated in a similar manner no matter where they're mostly forced to live segregated.

    BLM is not atypical for the civil rights movement. Back in the '60s, we saw MLK Jr. push peaceful civil disobedience. We saw Malcolm X and the Black Panthers push a more militant agenda. For the most part, MLK's approach has won out. It is ridiculous to suggest the whole movement is X's or the Black Panthers' sort of agenda.
     
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    It's a race only thing. The police are overstepping. The whole justice system is (among many other institutions).

    I can't answer more concise that this.
     
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