Politics I'm NOT voting for her but...

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  1. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    All but one of the 9/11 attackers were citizens of Saudi Arabia.

    ISIS is based in Saudi Arabia.

    With allies like that who needs enemies?
     
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    Question: Will ISIS gain new recruits to it's ranks from Muslims around the world or the multitude of non Muslims? Is there anything Trump could say to cause a non Muslim to answer the call of duty in ISIS?
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Don't confuse my statement as agreement that we should be allies with Saudi Arabia. I personally say fuck that country and all of their stupid laws.
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    I don't have any idea as to the timeline of the origination of this video vs. Hillary's claims about Trump's idiotic statements being used by ISIS. I do know she's a serial liar an Trump's a bombastic nitwit. What a great political system we have in this country that it brings us such wonderful candidates for president.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Look at me actually defending Hillary...

    Dear Media: Hillary Clinton Did Not Claim Donald Trump is Being Used in ISIS Recruiting Videos.

     
  6. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Because if it was true at the time nothing would have stopped her from releasing the video. Not federal law, not common decency, nothing.
     
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    Trump? A nitwith?
     
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    What can Trump say to make a Jihads out of a Buddhist? Atheist? Geez, not a Christian???
    What the fuck is she talking about?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Weak sauce.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Damn right! We never should have brought those people we had in Iraq home. Who were those people? I don't think they're Americans, anyone's sons or daughters, just some random people we should have kept there forever. Oh wait, they're actually not people, they're just boots.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    It wasn't the bringing the troops home, it was letting the Iraqi prime minister know we wouldn't do or say anything about his reprisals against the Sunni.

    Obama was 100% wrong about the surge, which had almost entirely eliminated Al Qaeda in Iraq. Al Qaeda is ISIS.

    They teach you good about foreign policy and military strategy in community organizer school.
     
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    Al Qaeda is not ISIS.
     
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    We should at least ask ISIS to include a disclaimer to all propaganda broadcasts that Trump often refers to himself in the third person and may suffer from a personality disorder.... I now know how Canadians felt about John Ford. But he at least admitted he smoked crack. Having Trump offer commentary on racism is like having Stalin give a speech for basic human rights.

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    http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...sh-says-isis-didnt-exist-when-my-brother-was/

    spokesman for Bush’s political action committee pointed to a 2014 op-ed by Ali Khedery, who served as senior adviser to three heads of US Central Command from 2003-10.

    It starts by saying, "Three years ago, the Islamic State (ISIS) did not exist; now it controls vast swaths of Syria and Iraq."

    Technically, yes, a group with the name "ISIS" did not exist under President Bush.

    The group’s roots, however, trace back to 2004.

    "There were evolutions that took place with some of the name changes," said Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

    In 2004, long-time Sunni extremist Abu Mus‘ab al-Zarqawi established Al-Qa‘ida in Iraq (AQI), also known as the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) and more recently the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), according to the National Counterterrorism Center.

    After he was killed in a U.S. airstrike in 2006, the group was renamed the Islamic State of Iraq.

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    The Congressional Research Service wrote in August 2008 that U.S. officials concluded that al-Qaida in Iraq was "weakened almost to the point of outright defeat in Iraq, although they say it remains lethal and has the potential to revive in Iraq."

    The surge under Bush was successful -- the attacks al-Qaida was carrying out had significantly declined by January 2009 when Bush left office.

    "Literally everybody viewed this as a defeat for ISIS," Gartenstein-Ross said. "When I say everybody I mean al-Qaida included. They viewed this as a major defeat to its brand."

    A spokesman for Jeb Bush pointed to several articles that noted how the group was weakened, including a Washington Post article that stated that in 2009 "the power of the Islamist militancy in Iraq was at its lowest ebb, and the number of killings had plunged."

    In 2010, Vice President Joe Biden declared success in Iraq. When the combat mission ends, he said the administration "will be able to point to it and say, ‘We told you what we’re going to do, and we did it.’"

    But three factors led the group to a comeback: the Syrian war, the Iraqi government ruled in a sectarian way that alienated Sunnis, and the U.S. withdrew troops.
     
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    This is news to you? All he does is bloviate. The dumbass had absolutely no clue what the term Triad had to do it at the last debate.
     
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    When did you find out?
     
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    ROTC 45 years or so ago, before I became a missile launch officer. You?
     
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    Ha! So you were screwing around with the missiles while Trump made Billions. He is the nitwit?
     
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    Trump took daddy's money and managed to roughly make as much as if he'd just stuck it in a money market fund. In the meantime he screwed over a lot of people with bankruptcies to save his own butt. Yeah, he's a genius.
     
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