How do we get another lotto pick?

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  1. Orion Bailey

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    If he pulls a Mathews, then I don't think NO will overpay. As a matter of fact, so far NO has been nothing but tight with money. IF, and I say this is a big if, Meyers goes that route and plays us in FA, then I doubt we keep him. With that said, I think that Meyers has somewhat grounded himself here and I think that he will stay, get a decent contract that will satisfy him and not strap us. I hope so anyhow. I bought his damned Jersey!
     
  2. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Please elaborate on "pulls a Mat(t)hews..."
     
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    blue9 Well-Known Member

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    We went over (and over and over) this during the summer. I don't care to run in the same circle all over again.
    And I'm right, you're wrong. :p
     
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    He probably means if he gets a contract offer for way more than he's actually worth, like Matthews and his max contract.
     
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    I think we keep Damian and Plumlee. All others "could" be traded for improvements IMO.
    I am not happy yet with Aminu and Leonard. Both don't seem to know how to play the game very well, again IMO.

    Answer to the question: Trade Leonard and Aminu or Harkless (I'd prefer to keep Mo) to one of the bubble Lottery teams before the trade deadline and HOPE they finish between 10-14 in conference. I think you could also get a 10-14 pick for CJ.

    I don't see other opportunities. Some of you guys are over-valuing our players.
     
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  7. blue9

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    I'm totally on board with trading Aminu. I hope he has a string of 10-15 good games right before the trade deadline.
     
  8. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    In this draft, I don't think CJ + picks/filler gets you in the top three. This looks more and more to me like a special draft at the top, like the LeBron/Carmelo/Wade/Bosh year. If you are in the top three and have a chance at a player like that, you don't give it up for C.J. McCollum. You take the pick and figure you are going to be bad enough to add another lottery pick the following year, as a worst case scenario.

    If I'm the Blazers, I am hoping I get into that top five, because, unlike most teams drafting there, we already have a couple of proven big-time guys. Then you use that capspace to work a deal for another player, possibly overpaying or being creative in free agency, or possibly using it as a trade to, in a perfect world, get a borderline all-star type player. Then maybe you look to buy into the bottom of the first round and see if you can steal a Batum-level player.

    At least, that would be my formula.
     
  9. Orion Bailey

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    If Meyers asks for out of the line money and some desperate teams tosses a contract at him. Mathews killed his chances at Portland offering him anything when he started saying what he wanted when he was injured.

    Right. I got it. Im right and your wrong!:cheers:
     
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  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Bump.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

    Looking at potential salary dumps to acquire, possible guys to go after, to get a pick as incentive:

    -DRose (1yr, 21mil)
    -Monroe (2yrs 17 mil per)
    -Henson (4yrs, 11 mil per)
    -Gallo (2yrs, 16 mil per)
    -Carroll (3yrs 15 mil per)
    -Chandler (3 yrs, 13 mil per)
    -Gay (2yrs, 13 mil per)
    -Rubio (3yrs, 14 mil per)
    -Faried (3 yrs, 13 mil per)
    -Asik (4 yrs, 12 mil per)
    -Wilson Chandler (3 yrs, 12 mil per)

    DEN and MIL keep appearing often. DEN has their own lotto pick (#7 now), the Rockets' first pick (#16 now), and our lotto protected pick. MIL has its own lottery pick (#8 now) . PHX is another target. Gave up huge contracts to Chandler, Bled, and Knight. And they have their own lottery pick (#6 now) as well as the Cavs' first rounder (#28 now).

    DEN is just screaming at me. They have 3 shitty contracts in Gallo, Chandler, and Faried, and are losing still. And 2 picks in the top 20.
     
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  11. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    My wouldn't trade list:
    Dame
    CJ
    Crabbe
    Vonleh
    Plumlee
    Aminu

    I think that is a real nice 6 man unit to build around. I like a lot of the other guys like Ed and Meyers but if we are talking the core which we build around, then I would have to go with those 6 guys.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Chandler, Gallo and Faried are all reasonable contracts considering the cap increase.

    Plus, they just upped Chandler AND Gallo. Really don't see them trading two wings when wings are the most scarce position in the league.

    13 million for Faried isn't great, but if you don't think Mason is getting 13 million in free agency you've got another thing coming.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Gallinari and Faried are playing very well this season, and Chandler is expected to make a full recovery from his hip surgery. I doubt they're looking to dump any of those guys. With Nurkic back and Jokic having been solid in his absence, plus Barton's emergence, the Nuggets are actually looking to have a dangerous core if Mudiay continues to develop and they add someone decent in this upcoming draft.
     
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    Why would you buy a Meyers jersey??
     
  16. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    That's fair. Perhaps DEN is not as much of a salary dump target as I had assumed. I don't know much about their ownership and how willing they've been to spend. Robert Sarver might is definitely volatile though. Forgot to mention Markieff's contract earlier-- PHX might be more of a target.
     
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    I dont think anyone is salary dumping with the new cap coming in.

    Time to face it, we are not getting number one.
     
  18. Orion Bailey

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    Because at the time, I thought he was bound for a break out season, we would match another teams offer and he would be with us for several more years. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
    Missed ya last night. We all could have celebrated a great win last night! ;)
     
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    By trading CJ, pretty simple.

    I wonder if that were done, would we flip the two lottery picks for a guy like Paul George? Say if the the Lottery picks are both in the 6-10 range.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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