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I'd love to trade him for the pick that would become Sabonis, but I really doubt we could get what would probably need to be a late teens pick for him.

 

I think we should try to think a bit bigger. Is there a top 5 predicted lottery pick team (Sixers, Lakers, ETC) that would be willing to give that pick up for Leonard/Hendo/Alexander? Maybe one of them does have cap issues even with the impending increase and we can eat a contract as well?

Is this all too much to ask because of too many X factors because it has to be made now rather than at seasons end?

I'm just saying, lets not just trade him to trade him, lets make sure we go for something real and not just get the same in return. We don't need a 2nd round pick. That player would never see time and wouldn't better this team in the time frame we have. If we are going to trade for a pick, then we should try to trade up into the lottery...but Id only be willing to do this without trading any of our starters, Ed or Crabbe.

 

My guess is that the only players that the Blazers have that would potentially net a lottery pick is Dame and CJ. Anyone else probably wouldn't sniff a first round pick. Maybe Crabbe would net a late first rounder.

As for teams trading with the Blazers to save money, here's a look at the CAP situation for all of the teams:

The tax amount a team has to pay depends upon how much they are over the tax level, and if they are a 'repeat offender' or not (Repeat Offender teams are: Nets, Lakers, Heat, and Knicks.). Here's a link to some info on paying the luxury tax.

My guess is that we'll probably be seeing some cost savings moves from those top 7-8 teams. Portland, Philly, and Utah look like they are the obvious candidates to trade with. How much are the tax paying teams willing to give up (future draft picks) to save money this year? I'd be surprised if they were willing to package a first round pick with a salary dump trade. Maybe a second rounder.

Here are some of the bigger contracts (non-starters) from the teams that are in the tax:
OKC - Enes Kanter, $16.4M (4 yrs)
HOU - Ty Lawson, $12.4M (1 yr)
GSW - Andre Iguodala, $11.7M (2 yrs)
LAC - Lance Stephenson, $9M (1 yr)
HOU - Corey Brewer, $8.2M (3 yr)
CHI - Taj Gibson, $8.5M (2 yr)
SAS - Boris Diaw, $7.5M (1 yr)
GSW - Jason Thompson, $6.9M (1 yr)
MIA - Josh McRoberts, $5.5M (3 yr)
GSW - Shaun Livingston, $5.5M (1 yr)
OKC - Dion Waiters, $5.1M (1 yr)
MIA - Chris Andersen, $5.0M (1 yr)
CHI - Mike Dunleavy, $4.5M (2 yrs)
SAS - Patty Mills, $3.6M (2 yrs)
HOU - KJ McDaniels, $3.2M (2 yrs)
HOU - Terrance Jones, $2.5M (1 yr)
HOU - Donatas Motiejunas, $2.3M (1 yr)

Lets see if any of these names ends up being traded over the next few weeks.

 

Wow! Great post! Kinda depressing though. The only guy on that list that raises a serious eyebrow s Iguodala and I would assume he's all but untouchable.

 

It would be so great if one of Neil's past victims, like OKC, did make Meyers a "toxic offer", and Olshey leaves them holding the bag.

 

With them signing Kanter, I don't think they have a need for Meyers, but that would be over the top if they offered Leonard a max or something , thinking WE feel like we need to match because we DO have a need for PF and then we don't... and they are stuck with him? That would put NO in the history books man!

 

with Noah out for the season and a big expiring I'd say a trade with Chi could be a possibility, Henderson for Noah and a top 16 protected pick?

 

What would you think of:

CJ McCollum/Meyers Leonard to the Philadelphia 76'ers

........for.......

Nerlens Noel and Miam's 1st round Draft pick

Philly has the following 1st round picks this summer:

• Their own (currently slotted at #1)
• Lakers 1st round pick (Top 3 protected 2016 and 2017)
• Miami's 1st round pick (Top 10 protected.....currently slotted at #21)
• OKC's 1st round pick (Top 15 protected.....currently slotted at #28)

Philly has too many inside big men and 3-4 1st round picks coming this summer. They are VERY young, would like to unclog the middle from so many inside big men and want to actually start winning more games since Colangelo took over.

Meyers didn't sign an extension so he may get a toxic offer this summer anyhow and not be back. CJ has really blossomed but does much better when he plays with the ball and not off the ball. He has struggled since Dame came back going 39-117 (.333). CJ is much more comfortable when he has the ball in his hands, can dribble, create, dance, juke, and set up players more often and get his own rhythm. It was that way in the playoffs last year in his huge came against Memphis as Dame was so off, CJ basically took over playing PG and Dame played off the ball when they were in together.

I would like a pick higher that #21 but Philly isn't giving up their #1 pick for that even if Portland threw in it's 1st rounder (if they keep it) IMO. I would also ask for either Richaun Holmes or Robert Covington but that wasn't in the rumor.

What do you think.....as this rumored to at least being thrown about.

 

I like it and

I'd do it

 

Yeah OKC would have no need for Meyers. It would be funny if someone did tender a toxic offer though. Just like Olshey did not offer to over pay Meyers this year, I don't see Olshey agreeing to overpay Meyers next year either just because someone tries to sucker him into a bidding war. Not after the way Leonard's weaknesses are being exposed.

 

LOL I sure hope someone makes him a"toxic offer", and they'll soon find out what is "toxic" about it!

 

Joakim Noah is out for the rest of the season with an injury. Bulls will be looking to dump his expiring salary and pick up healthy help for the playoffs.

Noah & 1st for Henderson.

Bulls get under the luxury tax and save $10+ million, plus get wing depth.

Portland saves $7+ million is salary floor expense and add a late first round pick for a player probably not re-signing here. ($s not confirmed, wild ass guess on my part, feel free to do the math and post)


Win-win.

 

The problem I have with this trade is, where will the offense come from? Dame can't do it all. And if we're starting Nerlens and Mason up front, teams won't pay them one bit of respect and will double, maybe triple team Lillard.

 

Interesting idea. The Bulls are only over the tax line by $4.2M (noted in earlier post). Noah's salary for this year is $13.4M. If they're concerned about payroll, another individual they're probably looking to remove from their books is Mike Dunleavy with a salary of $4.5M (2 yrs).

If they're looking for help this season, they're probably going to need more depth with Bigs. Noah was giving them 22 mpg at the center spot. Their only solid Bigs left are Mirotic, Gasol, and Gibson. They've got wings like Butler, Rose, Snell, McDermott, Brooks, Hinrich, and Moore. I'm not sure Henderson would add much there.

If they're giving up a 1st rounder, they're probably going to want some young talent. Perhaps Leonard? They could use him this year, and have him as a restricted FA this summer if they really liked him. If they're looking for some veteran Big help, perhaps also include Kaman.

Stranger things have happened I guess.

 

I think I'd add Meyers to the trade so the pick can be unprotected.

 

Why not just trade for a lottery protected 1st, Dunleavy and Noah for Kaman/Leonard? They get a needed big back who can spread the floor and a paint big, they get rid of the salaries so if they like Leonard they can resign. Then we take that pick and package it with CJ(might have to also include Aminu or Vonleh) and go after Phili for thier 1st?

Potentially puts us like this with tons of money to spend and I think this line up would turn a top FA's head to want to join to put us into contention Like maybe Durant?

Dame/Frazier
Crabbe/Harkless
Durant/Harkless/Aminu
Simmons/Aminu/Vonleh
Plumlee/Davis

We would still have some young hopefuls in Connoughton, Alexander and Montero to move up on Frazier Aminu and Harkless. I really like this. Contender now and room for future growth.

Am I living a pipe dream or is there anything other than a wet dream here?

 

Durant would not come here.

I think Meyers+Hendo for Noah and a mid 20s pick is extremely fair. I'd even be open to re-upping Noah on a prove it deal (2/20 w/ TO). Take our pick+Bulls pick to move up a couple spots to draft Dragan. In FA go hard for Harrison Barnes, pick up minor piece like Greivis Vasquez as well.

Dame / Vasquez / Frazier
Crabbe / CJ / Patty
Barnes / Aminu / Harkless
Dragan / Davis / Vonleh
Plumlee / Noah / Alexander

 

You had me up until the Philly part. My guess is that no one will be prying away the #1 or #2 picks this year. I think Simmons and Ingram have distanced themselves from the rest of the pack. If the Blazers are looking at those two, they'll probably have to settle with the lottery odds.

 

NOt bad, but one thing stands out. Noah is not a long term fit and I think Davis is the backup Center with Vonleh the backup PF behind Dragan. Leaves us weak in the C compared to the rest. One solid rotational away though I think. And tyhat wont be very hard to find to make a trade next year mid season with the assets we would have in Vonleh/Harkless and Aminu

 

My thought is if Noah gets hurt again/doesn't work we'd just move Davis to backup 5 and Vonleh to backup 4 with Aminu and Alexander as emergency guys at 4/5.