The Veritable Quandary to Close - say it ain't so?!?!?!

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It's all good.

And so is the food. I have never had anything there that I didn't like. The bacon-wrapped dates were the one thing we always got every single time. If anyone came to town, we took them there and ordered the dates (our guests were almost always afraid until they took a bite, and would then request another order).

Otherwise..... their grilled pizzas are the bomb, duck confit spring rolls, rabbit pate, the ribeye was bomb, they always have a white fish I like, and their VQ burger is basic but delicious (and stacked with fries - price appears to have gone up, but for a long time, it was a steal at $10).

For breakfast/brunch, the King's Plate or Eggs Benedict. Their Bloody Marys are bomb, too.

 

my mouth is watering thinking about all that. They also had a salad with an egg on butter lettuce with bacon and a bunch of other stuff that was one of my favorite salads in town, although higher in calories than any salad i've ever had. You are right about the burger and fries a bar favorite for certain.

Have you been to Toro Bravo? They also have bacon wrapped dates that are out of this world.

 

Although I can get with that sentiment, I think it's overly simplified and impossible. There can't ever be any govt that causes no harm, hopefully it just causes very little and does far more good than bad. I know you might be fine with no govt, but I'm not. I like streets and hate rape.

 

Toro Bravo.... yes, a few times. Our Oregon winery does a "Bravo" blend for them. They are owned by the same people that own the two Tasty's restaurants and MEC (Mediterranean Exploration Company). Toro Bravo did these lamb shank pies that were severed at the Grand Dinner at IPNC last summer - ridiculously amazing.

You should check out MEC next time you're in town - that place is the ish.

 

Awesome, I will. Love the tasty's and Toro Bravo is certainly one of my top five restaurants in PDX. I like going to Toro Bravo and for something like $35 you leave your selections up to the chef and they bring you out 7 or 8 dishes. Usually a couple of those dishes are things I would have never selected on my own, and I always end up impressed by them.

I don't think I have ever gotten the Bravo blend but I have had a bunch of awesome wines there, so I totally trust their wine buying. Next time I'll go that route.

By the way, I'm looking for a decent Dolcetto, any recommendations?

 

I actually wouldn't be opposed to paying fair market for the restaurant, but operating govt like that does open some doors for possible abuse. Not that it would in this case.

Glad you aren't an anarchist, I actually knew you weren't. Sorry if I mischaracterized you.

By building the courthouse elsewhere it harms most citizens would would have to travel further (if we moved it far enough that we weren't encroaching on other businesses). It would harm all the food carts, the copy centers, the coffee shops ..... that stay in business because of the central nature of all things legal downtown. It would hurt the taxpayers because they would need to spend more to transport between Jail and courthouse. You can say you don't care about lawyers and such, but they are business people too, and it would hurt them. A couple years ago I was fined for some BS and needed to contest it. I won, and it only took me about 45 minutes. If the courthouse were moved out of downtown (required to not displace businesses) it would have harmed me by taking much more of my time.

 

There are some nice Dolcettos out there imported from Italy in the $16-22 range, but the quantities imported are fairly scarce, so availability between markets is somewhat limited. I had a nice one from Sobrero (I'd never heard of them before, but someone brought it out at a small work-related gathering) about 5 months ago, actually.

There are a couple of I've tried with fruit sourced from Yakima Valley (Wild Rose or Wind Rose or something along those lines?? - and Tranche Cellars). It's not a wine I drink a ton of, but when the food calls for it, it's a nice wine to have around.

 

citizens aren't just jury members but people filing for permits, fighting tickets, getting zoning allowances, getting firearm carry licenses and a plethora of other tasks.

 

I had no idea tranche had one. I'm interested in trying more because I've been looking at viticulture/climate preferences and it seems like a perfect grape for the area, and from the few I've had it seems very approachable and flavorful. I love the idea of making some wines that aren't exploited in a market like here in WW where customers are a bit more adventurous. Counoise, Carmenere, Abarino and Torrontes are a few of the more obscure varietals that you can find locally, and i really enjoy all of them. I need to check into Tranche.

 

So, lets make it less convenient?

 

I've had to go to the courthouse once here in WW after getting a speeding ticket. I walked in, told them why I was there, they pointed me to an office where a judge heard me, reduced my fine and sent me on my way. Took less than 5 minutes. Small town living is great sometimes. Getting my carry license was a bit longer since I also had to get fingerprinted at the jail, but still didn't take too long.

 

It certainly matters that its more or less convenient. Less convenient means they need to hire more employees, reimburse more for travel, pay more for prisoner transport, etc. That charges the taxpayer more. That matters.