Who would you trade CJ McCollum for?

Cousins.

 

Not with Dame standing in his way he won't.

 

He can, and probably will improve- but how much is the key. I'm going thru and trying to find instances where a player has improved THAT much to get from so sub par to even average. Yes, trading just to trade- is beyond ridiculous. That's why the question was prefaced as to who would you trade him for? It gets to the crux of the issue- forces people to look a bit deeper into what risk vs reward and opportunity costs exist, and then decisions can be made a bit more effectively.

 

yeah, that Roy (beyond the fact he would've been a HoF) would have been absolutely devastating alongside Dame.

 

to the OP. I wouldn't trade him. He literally is like the only guard that can get a shot off at the rim with any sort of above average success.

Dame can sort of, but telegraphs so much he gets blocked to shit.

 

you had me until you said "at the rim..." That's literally the one place CJ is a walking dumpster fire. He's so far below league average around the rim that I'm really struggling, trying to figure out how/why- and any one else in NBA history who was so prolific from everywhere else on the court and I'm coming up with nothing. I'll have more when I post my player profile tonight/tomorrow on CJ- but so far it's leading me nowhere...

 

You know- that's probably the single best comp I've seen anyone come up with in both play style and stature. Gordon was better at the rim and a better athlete. CJ has the better handle and a more consistent shot. Both could/can get red hot almost instantly, CJ at this point looks to be the better playmaker. Looking at their shooting splits, it's crazy close how their distribution plays out- there's minor differences but for the most part, their games were a lot alike.

If you believe that's CJ's ceiling- you trade him now- b/c his value screams that he's at/near his peak. If you think he has another level still, then he's worth keeping over the long haul.

 

How do you know that would never happen? CJ is young and Gasol/Milsap are past 30. KAT a hall of fame lock? Yeah...ok.

 

Ah, I should have known to avoid trade threads. Some stupid bitch always replies "That would never happen blah blah blah blah"

 

My sentiments as well.

 

Say what?!? Quick, James & company would have a field day if we brought in Cousins. Not saying I'm opposed as he is highly talented but he IS a headcase and not sure if just a change of scenery will fix that enough to be worth it.

....hide him from the media....

hahaha

 

Lamarcus Aldridge

 

Good god almighty!
Some of you actually think it will be a good idea to trade CJ for Avery Bradley or Brook Lopez or Nikola V.

My God...

 

I don't know what analytic measurement you are using to come up with the conclusion that CJ is a walking dumpster fire at the rim, but my eye balls tells me that he continues to deliver incredible driving layups in traffic. (Like the one last night they have been showing on the highlight reals) But I also think the poster you were responding to was making the point that CJ can also attack the basket, along with his other repertoire of shots, which puts him in select company. The runners/floaters which are not technically at the rim, also should be included in the "at the rim" category for this particular discussion.

 

Rasheed Wallace.


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Nope - that Roy would have bitched and moaned about not having the ball in his hands enough to run 18 ISOs per game. He was nearly as much of a diva as bitchmade LMA is. Roy was fantastically talented, but fuck him.

 

I had to look it up myself, but it appears to be true:
http://stats.nba.com/league/player/...ft. FG PCT&dir=-1&CF=Less Than 5 ft. FGA*GE*2

My parameters were for guards who take at least 2 shots from "less than 5 feet", and CJ has the 4th worst FG%. Dame is 8th worst.
I believe a lot of this is due to the fact that Stotts offense simply does not have any plays that are designed to get good looks around the basket. Get a new coach who understands screens, movement and passing and I bet we see a 5-10% increase in both Dame's and CJ's ability to finish at the rim.

 

Huh? Lock at HOF???????? I dont know if Ive ever smoked that much to be that delusional..
NOt saying he wont make it, but Lock???? If he is a lock then they shoulda voted in Dame last year.....

I think he meant national media. Those guys are small town jokers.

 

CJ_midrange_qualified31Jan16 by Dan Marang posted Jan 31, 2016 at 5:16 PM

I've referenced this before- he's a dumpster fire inside. 44% is a ridiculously low number by comparison. While he's a fantastic midrange shooter, he's not so good in the midrange that it makes his sub par inside game okay. He would have to shoot so well from mid to offset this disparity that it's not even worth an argument. Hitting some wild off balance shots/layups in a game does not constitute a consistent ability or capability. It may give insight as to potential, but potential is just a measurement for what results could be, not a guarantee of future gains.