Dame D.O.L.L.A. featuring Brookfield Duece - "They Sleep"

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    AC/DC's, "Rock n' Roll Singer"

    The Lyrics:
    Gonna be a rock n' roll singer. Gonna be a rock n' roll star. Yes I are!

    Why:
    It should be "yes I am"



    Aerosmith's, "Sweet Emotion"

    The Lyrics:
    Some sweet-talkin' mama with a face like a gent
    Said my get-up-and-go must've got up and went

    Why:
    The line should have been "must've got up and gone.



    The Beatles', "Ticket To Ride"

    The Lyrics:
    She's got a ticket to ride, but she don't care

    Why:
    Should be "... but she DOESN'T care"
     
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    Actually, it's wholly appropriate to use an adjective as the object of a feeling verb. Both "I feel well" and "I feel good" are grammatically correct.
     
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    They've got no leg to stand on - Shakespeare turned the English language on its head with the shit he wrote.

    Oh, you mean like white male culture has done for thousands of years?
     
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    Prior wrongs justify future wrongs?
     
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    This is a wrong? "Crotchety old white men should gain perspective and understand there's no reason to complain about how grammatically correct a hip-hop song is." GTFO.
    No no, asking willfully ignorant people to stop being willfully ignorant has no place in this world. Especially when they choose to reject Item X when it occurs in another culture but cleave to Item X within their own culture.
     
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    No, the "elevating the value of your own perspective over another's" part, to which you said "like white culture has done for thousands of years" is what is wrong. To say (in effect) "You need to understand where I'm coming from, but I don't have to look at your point of view," is wrong.

    If someone asking for empathy, they should be willing to give it as well. That's all I'm saying. Consistency rather than hypocrisy. Practice what you preach.
     
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    But that's the point... an artist isn't necessarily trying to make you like his work. He's trying to communicate his own interpretation of the subject matter.
     
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    Which is fine, but people shouldn't get so up in arms because somebody doesn't like the art or the style. This whole discussion stemmed from Wookee shaking his head at Dame's grammar in one of the lines of his rap. Shouldn't Wookee be just as entitled to his viewpoint as Dame is entitled to communicate in his art in whichever manner he sees fit? Can't both sides of the aisle be valid?
     
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    No.
     
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    I'm sure Dame would love it if people listened to the lyrics in the context he meant but this work is already successful because people are talking about it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but art is a very personal thing and it wasn't recorded for Wookie it was recorded for Dame. As far as valid, I disagree, if someone is not willing to be open to the entire piece because of one part of it they don't have an informed opinion.

    When someone creates original stuff it is often not accepted. But artists/creators keep doing this because they have to. They are incredibly brave to share such personal things with other people. They open their innermost selves to be picked apart and know some people will not like it.
    And, finally, Wookie is a crotchety old white man, what do you expect?!? :cheers:
     
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    Sorry, but not all points of view are worth empathizing with - that's one of the greatest fallacies that "old white men" have been clinging to these past few decades in their cries over "reverse racism", the "war against Christians", etc. Just because someone has a stupid belief doesn't mean others need to respect that stupid belief. But sadly our current state of anti-intellectualism is trying to put "stupid beliefs" on equal footing with "facts" and "reason".

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    While I agree with the point you are making about double standards there are better things to fight than grammar. How about the teens that beat the fuck out of a marine at McDonald's after they asked him if black lives matter? http://usmclife.com/2016/02/marine-...-beaten-robbed-gang-black-lives-matter-teens/
    Now that is some double standard, hypocrite, bullshit worth arguing about.
     
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    So now that we're discussing music.... what's the deal with Kanye?
     
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    So, who gets to determine which perspectives are "stupid" and which are "valid"?
     
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    The internet, of course.
     
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    Let me tell you about Kanye. Fuck Kanye! (And Jay-Z, too!)
     

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