On the nature of evil

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Which one is more evil: Obama or Hillary?

  1. Barack Hussain Obummer

  2. Shrillary Rodham Clinton

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I was using YOUR argument against you. It's you that needs to pick a side.

    I have seen enough to know he's incompetent. You can keep your doctor. He must not have read it (incompetent).
     
  2. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Hitler, Mussillini, Hirohito or Stalin? :dunno:

    The question is fatuous.
     
  3. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Don't debate Denny's Gish gallop.

    It was never my argument that Obama handed over Treasury money to the insurance companies. That was your argument.
     
  4. Further

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    So I know I'm not who the poll was intended for, but i voted Hillary. Obama I think is a great president although I don't agree with all he has/hasn't done.

    Hillary I vacillate about. She just bothers me from a purely personality standpoint. She seems extremely conniving, although that may actually be a good trait for a President. But she strikes me as unauthentic, someone without much conviction on issues that don't relate to women's issues (which I do believe she is truly passionate about). I agree with many of her policies except I think that she is a bit of a warmonger. I would certainly vote for her over Trump, Rubio, Cruz or just about any of the candidates who have dropped out. The only caveat being Kaisch whom I disagree on many issues with, but I think it might be worth it to get a moderate in to actually accomplish something and move the republican party back to the center a bit.

    Of course, if there is any chance for Sanders, I'll be all over that. I don't agree with him on many financial issues, but I will vote for just about anyone who I believe will work towards dissolving citizens united and uncouple money from politics. Bernie will do that. He will never get most of his crazy financial issues passed, so I'm not too worried about those.
     
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  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    That was your argument just yesterday.

    Obama is incompetent, and was ill prepared for the job. I feel Cruz and Rubio are ill prepared for the job as well.
     
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    Quote me.
     
  7. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    This is like arguing who has the biggest package in the under 3 inch club. The winner is still a loser.
     
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  8. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I notice you didn't mention the orangutan in the room...

    barfo
     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    trump?

    He's been an executive and budgeted $billions with P&L responsibility. He's more qualified than most.

    Like it or not.
     
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    I don't get where you are coming from on Sanders at all. He has his hand out big time and he wants the force of law to stick it in your pocket!

    Who the hell has uncoupled money from politics more than Trump? Geez, he is the only one in my memory, that doesn't take from anyone.

    Seems like you haven't been paying attention Further.
     
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    Trump will select Kasich as VP and he is most knowledgeable in governing of all the candidates. The pair of them is by far the best chance we have.

    I was really disappoint in Trump saying he would issue more H1 visas. It was even better when he backed off yesterday than if he had never said it.
    It shows the man does have some knowledgeable people advising him about the stuff where he is not up to speed. Kasich will be a great addition to team with the leader.

    I have used the H-1 visa route a few times, a couple because I needed a the language skills along with the technical. Then one time, I needed a guy that knew multiple systems and that rarely happens. I wrote the job description very specific where I figured only he and I could qualify. I ran the ad in several papers for two weeks with no responders.
    These reasons I think are valid, they were not done to import skills at lower wages then American worker, as happens these day way too often. Bill Gates lead the way here.
     
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  12. barfo

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    Are you of the opinion that budgeting is a major part of the job description of President?

    I will grant you he has executive experience, that is true. Kasich's executive experience is probably 1000 times more relevant, but Trump has been an executive.

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    It's frankly unlikely Kasich is the VP. He could be, but I don't see why Trump picks him rather than say, Beyonce or Charles Manson.

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    Too bad that Oregon doesn't carry more political clout or Trump could decide to go with a

    Bad
    Ass
    Rotten
    Fuckhead
    Oregonian

    that those of on this board could recommend.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I would be perfect. Then when Trump resigns in disgrace Jan 23rd, I can implement my plans.

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    Yeah, like they could possibly be any more evil than Trump's.
     
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    It's the economy, stupid.

    The country has a P&L of sorts.
     
  18. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Somebody hasn't been paying attention:

    barfo
     
  19. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Trump is a lying incompetent; he'd have made more money buying and holding a S&P 500 fund.
     
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    So I just want to be clear, that that wasn't my argument and that I never said that Obama:

    That was you. What I said Obama did was hand insurance companies millions of customers.
     
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