OREGON MINIMUM WAGE SET AT $14.75 AFTER GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL AMIDST OPPOSITION’S DEFIANCE

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  1. Aly

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    Minimum wage is a starter job, learn some skills and prove you can show up all the time and work hard and your pay will increase. Good hard workers are always in demand. We did a disservice to young kids by making it illegal for them to work they do not learn the work ethic needed to succeed. Wages will have to go up across the board because of the higher minimum wage, people with skills will expect more also.
    As for Social Security, it was never meant to be a living wage either just a portion of what you need to retire on. If the gov is going to dictate pay then S.S. needs to be tied to minimum wage where they both go up together.
    So many people today want the government to pay for or control everything, I would like the government to get out of our lives, take less in taxes and let us decide how to spend our money.
    It is very interesting in this country the Dems vs Republicans, 1 is far left and 1 is far right and we need a version closer to the middle.
    This could be Trump, his own party is fighting harder to keep him from being elected than they fought Obama.

    It would be better if all states voted the same, primaries are different being open or closed to out of party voters and Caucuses are there to change your vote, straight up or down vote by all seems the most fair. Delegates some states they are divided other states are winner take all, either way make them the same.

    Last get big corporation money out of the primaries and have all primaries with in about 3 months to get it over with.
     
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    Actually when SS was started average life expectancy was 59yrs, with SS kicking in at age 65.

    Current US life expectancy is 79yrs. We could give everyone a huge increase if we didn't start paying out until they turned 85.
     
  3. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    You don't even know me bro. But you assume you know my type because I'm black.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Are you saying you don't have a really big...
     
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    They'll start more meth labs to compensate
     
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    I like it...in 2022 when it kicks in all you young fuckers will be able to pay for my social security!
     
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  7. MarAzul

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    uh! That is boarder line ignorant. Did you just take a hit to suppress your intellect so you can fit in?
     
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    or mouth? Ha! he strikes me as a none stop jaw(s). Ha!
     
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    I've met him many times in person and he's a true gentleman.
     
  10. MarAzul

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    Wonderful Sly! I don't have the advantage, I can only see big as it shows up on this board.
     
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    If I had to guess what the man was speaking about, I would have guessed, liberal.
    Your first guess is Black.
    Then Sly comes with the first guess about your bigness as, Dick.
    I would have guessed, mouth, then liberal.

    Is there a tie here I need to know about? Asperger's in the way again?
     
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    Ending slavery without reparations doomed black people to terrible mistreatment for over a century.
     
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    Lincoln's plan for the slaves he freed were as lacking as Clinton's plans for Libya. Most of the lands worked by the slave probably, rightfully should have been redistributed to new owners. It was not,
    most was sold at action for back taxes and the slaves were just moved out of the way. Much of the land went to Northern bidders.
    The great Lincoln's only plan for the slaves was repatriation back to African, Liberia. Those that think the war was about slavery really need to study the actual history. Some slaves did come out of the fracas and turmoil owning a bit of land, most were not even permitted to own land until after the 14th amendment was passed making them citizens. This, some how began the myth of 40 acres and a Mule.

    Lincoln was assassinated before he could execute his plan for the slaves, but I am not so sure this was of any help, Grant's did not seem ( my historical view) to give a damn at all what happened with the former slaves or the multitude of white non slave owners through out the South. Exploitation of the people of the South by the Northern powerful went on for decades. The north wanted the South to take it rightful place as consumers in their industrial economy and that was the extent of their concern. But then, this pretty much cause the war to begin, no reason to expect a change in the goal after a win.
     
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    you should reread the causes of secession again. slavery and in particular the refusal of the northern states to return their property to them was the root cause of the secession. candy coat it as a violation of the constitution if you like , but you must admit it was slavery front and center in all of the declarations.
     
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    uh, take another taste.
     
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    those are the words of the state legislatures that voted for secession
     
  18. MarAzul

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    yet the first shots were fired by south carolina
     
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    Lincoln ordered his troop to occupy the old abandon fort, part of South Carolina, after South Carolina had left the Union. It is normal to get shot at when you invade a neighbor.
    The Canadian shot at the Americans too when they tried to invade. Come to think of it so did the Mexicans.

    But Lincolns actions in invading South Carolina have nothing to do with the well being of Slaves.
     

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