If the General were held today, how would you vote?

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Further, Feb 29, 2016.

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Who would you vote for if the major candidates were Clinton and Trump?

  1. I would vote Clinton

  2. I would vote Trump

  3. I would vote for a third party candidate even if they had no chance of winning

  4. I would abstain

  5. I would write in a candidate

  6. other - please explain

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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I used dawg or bro simply as examples as things white people say in their effort to relate to you. It happens to me all the time. I was referring to when you called Rosa Parks my sister.
     
  2. Further

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    It's an interesting conundrum. I call a lot of my good friends brother and sister, but it took me longer to call a black friend brother cause I didn't want him to think I was calling him that due to his skin tone. Once this shit gets in your head, sometimes there is no right answer. I know that admitting that I treated him differently, even if it were well intentioned, isn't too cool, but that's the shitty thing about the pervasiveness of racism in society, it infects even well intentioned interactions.
     
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    There's a difference between calling somebody brother and bro. That's why I say brother all the time.
     
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    I go in the 7-Eleven on Park Avenue and McLoughlin once every few days. There's a guy in there who calls me bro all the time. He never addresses any of the white patrons in that manner. It's annoying as fuck. I want to tell him that I'm not his bro but of course that would be rude...
     
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    So this type of "bro" can be done with different meaning both good and bad. I think a good portion of people who do this (use alternate wording by race) truly mean it only with good intentions, trying to show that they want, accept and appreciate the others culture. But of course it doesn't come off that way. And then there are people who use those terms divisively and without goodwill. Most likely the 7-eleven clerk doesn't have a diverse group of friends AND is socially clueless. But his intentions may be pure, we just don't know.
     
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    Oh I'm sure he was completely unaware. You see, when it's done out of ignorance and in an effort to relate, I might feel irritated but I don't respond negatively. I don't begrudge those who are simply trying to relate. It's those who do it on purpose that get on my fucking nerves which is why I responded to Rasheedfan the way I did.
     
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    Fair enough, I wasn't there, so I can't infer intent.
     
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    Sure a flat tax, by definition, is not regressive. However, with our current level of deductions tend to target higher wage earners. So, it is plausible to believe if you instituted a flat tax rate but left the deductions in place that you would efffectively create a regressive tax system when looking at effective tax rates rather than the nominal rates.
     
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    The guy at 7-Eleven does call me bro because I'm black. Again, it's very easy to tell as he does not address the white patrons in that manner. He is however, not doing it maliciously or in a patronizing way. He's saying it because I'm black but only in an effort to relate to me. If anybody gets mad or treats someone worse because someone is trying to relate to them, they're stupid. It's just when people do it on purpose that it gets on my fucking nerves.
     
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    You didn't need to bring up Rosa Parks in the first place. That's one of the most terrible analogies I've ever seen. My post didn't illicit that response. You went out of your way to post that crap. And then to tell me to get over myself after you make a point to post it, makes your apology fall flat.
     
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    Deductions are necessary. Consider you sell a widget for $1 that costs you $.50 in material to make. Is your income $1 or $.50? Without deductions, your income is $1 (but it's really $.50).

    The tax system is not regressive, nor would a flat tax based system be regressive.

    As it stands now, the top 1% pay more taxes than the bottom 90% combined. The top 10% pay 70% of all the income taxes. If it weren't progressive, the top 10% would pay 10% of the taxes.
     
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    You and I have always disagreed on this. We will continue to disagree.
     
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    That the top 1% pays more than the bottom 90% in income taxes is a fact. There's nothing to agree or disagree about it.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Another typical day on the forums where someone gets offended. Ya'll need to get your butt cramps looked at bros, brothers, dawgs, dogs, playas, players!
     
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    Perhaps I knew from past conversation that rosa parks was an easily identifiable and relatable historical figure that you can relate to. There for making my analogy easy to understand. I dont see how it is racist. you could do the same with say, jeffery dhamer and myself. While im not racist nore a cannabal, i can easily relate to such a character because we are both white, and emotionless psychopaths.

    Now after you tried to project me as a racist, I ran with it a bit I'll admit. But that's how ive always handled false accusation, by doing what I'm accused of, to elicit a response and help my subject see that they were wrong in their original assumption. Good chat, dawg.

    Now to defend my analogy. Rosa parks, simply sat down and refused to move, she trolled a bunch of racist idiots and became a hero. I simply dont vote, and by not doing so, troll the system, which pretty much makes me a modern day hero.
     
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    Cool story...
     
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    So making that assumption is racist? More or less racist than calling anyone voting for trump a racist?
     
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    No one said that if you want to vote for Trump you're racist. I've never said that. What are you getting that notion from? My thread said that racists love Trump. They do.

    I said cool story because I don't believe a word of it.
     
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    Hahahahaha you are fun man.
     
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    Wait till you get a few drinks in me! :cheers:
     
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