Do you think the NBA is a fair game?

There you go.. Your commenting on something you didn't even know what I was saying.. Please go open the link first before assuming you know what i'm talking about.
Again, its been pointed out that the Blazers lost the game by many, but is that the end all and we shouldn't dissect it to find areas to improve? One of which would be holding the refs to fair play calling? No this wouldn't have one us the game, but could and probably was one of many contributors. I mean that's a straight up turnover I posted in my link Given to us by the refs.
So before you get all better than thou on those of us complaining, I would suggest you at least read the links and what not of the posts you are telling people to stop with....

 

How ironic that you're saying that to me Mr bailey. I remember a certain poster getting super butthurt over those of us wanting to dissect why we lost a couple games when we had our good months this year.

 

That's why Im bringing it up. I clearly recall apologizing and making a point to say I was wrong and didn't mean to direct one's posts? But see. I read the posts I disagreed with. Your disagreeing with me based of of a reason without even knowing what I posted... pretty lame....

Plus, those conversations were MUCH different than this one and or this thread, but if you want to compare apples to oranges to help yourself sound better on your argument, while admitting you didn't even read the opposing arguments side, I guess that's your right... carry on....

 

There is no ref argument when you get thumped by 20 points. We have no answers for jordan or Griffin. Cp3 has dames number.

Imo it just seems petty to complain about the refs and biases after getting whooped.
Agree to disagree I guess.

 

Or open the link and know what your talking about regarding complaining before you say its petty? That's ignorant IMO...

 

The refs set the tone for the game early on. When they let LAC body and foul without a call in the first half, but don't reciprocate on the other end, it's going to affect how your team plays. Especially a young team with a lot of guys who have never been there. The Blazers looked shell shocked, and the Clips looked calm and confident. Having the refs bend you over in the first half is going to kill your confidence as a young team that has never been there before.

 

Also... there aren't 15 threads about how the refs suck like there were about the Blazers.. apples to oranges...

 

I dont have to read the link. I remember the play. I don't go to blazersedge.com because I hate that website. But I'll click on it just for you.

Looked at it and still don't care. We got whooped by 20. Complaining about the refs is such a losers mentality.

 

If you were playing in a game, and the refs were completely screwing your team over, how long would you play hard before you became apathetic?

 

I dont think the refs completely screwed us yesterday thought. We screwed ourselves by not hitting shots.

 

They allowed the Clips to completely neutralize our two best scorers. I guess we can agree to disagree?

 

This is exactly what I said during Michael Jordan's whole career.

 

Jfizzle just needs anther thread to hang out in...this ones obviously not for him.. you know.. Common sense referring with an unbiased mentality. These are things that don't register with Jfizzle.

If we would have won by 20, I would still bring up the out of bounds call because it was atrocious, and to say its a loser's mentality to bring it up, is a bunch of crap.

Your a moderator?

 

Results of this poll are completely surprising to me. I voted "fair."

I'm also watching every other playoff series, and have largely not noticed the refs in Game 1s so far.

Where's all this vitriol coming from? Our one game 1 where CP was allowed to be physical and refs got a few calls wrong?

 

At least Stan Van Gundy will occasionally let the media know what's up: (click link for video)
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...undy-says-refs-biased-lebron-james-backtracks

 

It comes from the simple eye test of watching games over the years. Not just last nights game and not just game one. It's rampant in many facets...

 

Come on man. This is really grasping.

 

I agree that final score doesn't mean bad/biased officiating is irrelevant. If the officiating is bad, you can legitimately complain about it whether you lost by 20 or by 1.

However, fans will never be a good, objective source on officiating. It's not that fans are specifically trying to spin; while some people are like that, that's not the majority of the issue. The reality is that the human brain has to interpret what it sees and biases affect that interpretation. It would be futile to claim that you'd see two borderline occurrences the same way if Lillard were the one being called for the foul or the one being fouled. In nearly every case, you won't, because you're predisposed to giving Lillard the benefit of the doubt over an opposing player. Even for non-borderline calls, you're far, far more likely to remember the ones that went against your team, for the injustice that you keenly felt, as opposed to the ones that went for your team. Even if you noticed it at the time, it's a "shrug, stuff happens to everyone" when it's beneficial, and "damn it, these officials are screwing us over" when it's not. I've (literally, no exaggeration) never seen fans up in arms over a bad call that went in their favor. That's not to say I've never seen fans notice one...but they're more likely to justify it, laugh it off or claim it happens to everyone. Outrage is never the reaction, for obvious reasons.

If you look at forums for other fanbases, you'll probably notice how much they complain about referees. It's pretty much a fixture of any game thread when the fans' team loses and sometimes even when they win. It's true for fans of good teams and bad teams, large market teams and small market teams. Regardless of who you root for, officiating is never something you feel is on your side. Because it probably isn't.

 

Minstrel we have missed you here. You've always had a way to put it way more eloquently than the rest of us. Hope you're doing well.

 

As much as I agreewith you, I think its only about 70% of the calls could be considered biased.

I'm sorry but the out of bounds call doesn't fit this and i'm sure any level headed fan of any team would say the ref screwed us by letting himself be manipulated by Griffin.

I actually agree with the bulk of Jfizzle regarding complaining, and there are plays that may not have been correct that we shouldn't be complaining about, but when I bring up something specific and am told its a losers mentality to bring it up/discuss it and its a ref being manipulated by a player... its black and white. I am sure the league would see it the same way too.

To say i'm a loser mentally because of this made me lose all cred for Jfizzle.