Do you think the NBA is a fair game?

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Is the NBA a fair game?

  1. Yes

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    15.7%
  2. No

    35 vote(s)
    68.6%
  3. Not Sure

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    15.7%
  1. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Life is good, but has gotten more busy over time, so I have sadly less time for talking about basketball. Also, as I get older, I find I have less to say--even when I am here, I read more than post.

    But I still watch the games, mostly, and I'll probably always show up here sometimes! I hope all is well with you, too.
     
  2. Minstrel

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Yeah, that was a bad call, but bad calls happen all the time. It's not a Portland-only issue. If you feel the state of officiating isn't good, that's one thing (though hard to analyze...are there better potential officials? Does the NBA do sub-standard training?). That's quite different from the implicit or explicit claim that officials are biased against the Blazers or for the Clippers.

    I'll be honest, I think the Blake Griffin aspect of that call is overstated. Yeah, he pointed out what he thought was a step-out (it was close, though clearly not on replay, but from his angle it could easily have looked like it), but players call out what they think are fouls or violations all the time. Sometimes referees agree, sometimes they don't. I don't think this is proof, or even evidence, that Griffin can get the rulings he wants.
     
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  3. Chris Craig

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    I don't know how anyone could have voted that the NBA is fair when it is so painfully obviously biased....refs should not get to control games...it should be their responsibility to ref a fair game...to make calls on both ends....and not simply a hoard of shooting fouls on one end and then nothing but on the floors on the other side to sort of even out the number of fouls called for both sides...

    NBA officials need to be held responsible for reffing games in such manners, and that the NBA has done nothing but swept it under the court is very telling...they are part of it and therefore condone this corrupt system...they should be ashamed of themselves, for they have spat on and ruined an amazing sport
     
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    I think it happens to Portland more then any other team....it would be a long look at the statistics to see it, but I'm sure the numbers would back that up...

    Either way....refs should not be allowed to control games, they help teams gain large leads by calling numerous fouls on one side and then not calling fouls on the other and letting teams like the Clippers get away with manhandling people...committing hard fouls, sometimes flagrants and getting away with it...there is no excuse for the officials
     
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    If it was bad training, it could easily be fixed...the NBA admits after games that bad calls were made, but they don't do anything to fix it. A more in depth training, an annual retraining, anything, nope....the NBA doesn't do anything because they are a part of the issue...so the explicit claim that refs are being biased, that they are intentionally calling games for teams they want to win, that the NBA wants to sin is a real issue...it is not an over the rainbow fantasy...it is real...and all you have to do to see it is open your eyes...watch the games closely, and tell me otherwise
     
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    You cannot play physical defense without buy-in from the referees; if they call a foul, you're not playing defense "right". If Dame does the exact same things CP3 does, he gets called for a foul. Point blank. Defense requires the ref to define what is allowed tonight and what is not. But when that list of what is allowed only applies to one team, then it's not fair.
     
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    I agree. I thinks its proof that the refs let players manipulate them. Not just Griffin.
     
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    I actually believe CJ did foul him on the play when he went for the ball.
    The replays showed CJ's hand on Griffins left elbow/arm. However light of contact it was. A ref could assume that contact assisted in Griffin loosing his balance.
    Which is what happened because the underneath ref called it after CJ went for the ball. Which is when he saw CJ's hand on Griffins elbow/arm.

    There were missed calls on both sides. Griffin was fouled far more often than he actually had them called for him. Just like when the Blazers attacked the rim in the first quarter they were fouled quite often as well. But it didn't change the outcome of the game in the first half 8 pt game.
    The Clippers came out and CP3 took over the game breaking it open in the second half. Can't allow that.
    Rivers made an adjustment to put CP3 in the post...If CP3 is posting, need to bring a double from Griffins man. Make Griffin shoot that jumper when CP3 passes out.
    Also I don't really remember Stotts making an adjustment... So.....
     
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    Now that all the new players know that the refs fucking hate Portland, they'll play through it. But you could tell all the new guys were shocked they were getting shat on by the NBA.
     
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    When they finally called one, they IMMEDIATELY called one on us to compensate. Not even transparent.
     
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    About 20 minutes.
     
  12. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    That sounds about right.
     
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    Compared to professional wrestling I think it's very fair.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Do people bet on professional wrestling?
     
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    Wrestling is far more fair - both parties buy into the end result before stepping into the ring.
     
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    I'm guessing @BigGameDamian does.
     
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    WCF Game 6, Kings v. Lakers. "The Big Fix."

    Case closed.
     
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    You're implying that a team can't have both. Again, you make a faulty post under the assumption that you caught one over on somebody.

    Some posts may never learn.
     
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    I don't think the refs care who wins. But attending numerous Clipper games over the last few years, (Not just against the Blazer ) I watch Doc work the refs even when they are up. I see the Clippers players complain after almost every MADE basket, and I see it eventfully pay off.

    When I lived in Utah during the Stockton-Malone years, i saw the same thing.

    Last night I saw Harkless get 3 fouls called on him while Blake Griffin continually went over and through our defenders.

    I saw the Moute impede the progress of CJ (Hand Checking:
    A defender may not place and keep his hand on an opponent unless he is in the area near the basket and the offensive player has his back to the basket. A defender may momentarily touch an opponent with his hand anywhere on the court as long as it does not affect the opponent’s movement (speed, quickness, balance, rhythm). ..........

    While at the same time the Blazers get called for fouls every time someone got close to CP3.

    Look the Clippers are a lot better and deeper than the Blazers. The refs did not cost us the game. But it doesn't mean they are, by any stretch of the imagination......consistent. That part of the game sucks.
     
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