OT ...Trump...beginning of the end?

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  1. totus44

    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Hmmm, legit is a bit subjective, so a satisfying answer can only come from you. But I do understand where you are coming from.

    Founders were against parties even though Jefferson and Hamilton squared off immediately.

    Our Constitution does not align to a process that enables formal coalition politics. The weakest 3rd party never survived. It was easier when States govt would appoint their 2 senators.

    Now what you don't see discussed in much detail are the splinter factions within both GOP and DEM. These caucuses are generally aligned to party platforms but you see these factions come to prominence time to time. Recently recall Boehner cobbling Dems plus GOP rinos when the Conservatives and freedom and tea party caucuses opposed legislation.

    More than a binary party system would require major Constitutional overhaul and that would never be ratified. Now what Cruz has proposed in terms of returning executive power to Congress and stripping Fed of power to return to the States will get you closer to that multi party system because States themselves would be far more distinctive. Couple that to the proper senatorial selection process and you get far more interesting and representative govt.

    Trump may also want to blow up Washington, but Cruz has both a head start, experience, knowledge and a solid understanding of our republic and it's history.
     
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    on re-charging Trumptards: Have ya' ever noticed, Shark bait can't stay away from bloody waters....
     
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    ...^^^ I agree as well...

    Tote was right, Chump won't get a "Big Gulp".....geez, saying "I love this State" (In NY to NY peeps), now who doesn't love The Big Apple....truly a moron, who's ego got the best of 'em...forgive these fools for they know not what they're doing...

     
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    Failure is never an option period, but you know that too well. I've got a gut feeling, have had too long, the America we're going to need POTUS/Leader representation for this era's upside down, ass backwards Nation, will be the one to try in vain to stop an inevitable divided Civil War, Race War, War on Terror, Cold War, Korean War, Economical War, Information War, Trade War, Tech War, et al, a game of Monopoly no more.....

    I can't see a POTUS or US Leader behind said wars, other than the asshole clown already on his way out, who's brought each within range.... Hillary would have to hide in a bunker. Trump make his tower his WH, he'd bring sacrilege to the real WH, (which would become a Museum),.... It may be more a matter of who's the next-Winfield Scott Hancock.... who is not running for Prez now; and could lead a Nation after ending a War....

    fk Tote, at this age, I might as well live in a bunker, in the wilderness....and write "On Dry Lake Pond"....when not scouting with the Bushmaster...while the Political Machines run this Nation into Bankruptcy filings, (already there financially), and the dirt....

    "to the victor go the spoils"
     
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    We need Legislation to ensure California cannot become any further distinctive...
     
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    Delegate math, 15 States to go and there is no path for Trump to get 392 more.

    Based on delegate loyalty (not bound voting) Cruz should have a coalition of 1237 delegates on the convention floor.

    Now boys and girls, here is the big question.... Do you play to win if you can win? Everything we believe in sports says yes, of course.

    So enter the nuclear option. One the convention floor the first day before any voting will be STD organizational meeting activities. Cruz can be asked to be recognized by the Chair who is Paul Ryan. Cruz then makes a point of order to vacate the delegate rules which unbinds them for the first ballot. Kasich or Rubio seconds the motion and the delegates vote to essentially unbind themselves from having to vote Trump. This motion passes and we go to a first ballot that embarrasses Trump out of Cleveland.

    Trump nightmare averted.
     
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    Un-fkng-believable...... on 2nd thought, why should anyone be surprised...

    "Donald Trump's private jet that is frequently used for campaign travel is not registered with the Federal Aviation Administration after the license was not renewed by the expiration date of Jan. 31, the New York Times is reporting. Without proper registration an insurer could decline to pay claims if an accident occurs or the FAA could impose a penalty. Renewing the license would cost $5 and it is good for three years. The FAA told the newspaper that maximum penalties for flying without registration include "a civil penalty of up to $27,500, a criminal fine of up to $250,000 and imprisonment for up to three years."[​IMG]
     
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    thanks, agree - good read.

    that said i have way too many issues with Kasich, and similar to those around Christie and Bush. These govs from blue/purple states do all the big govt pandering to their left constituents. rather I'd prefer to see them stand for their conservative beliefs and challenge status quo and start the process of reeducating folks. This is where Scott Walker was the better gov in the 2016 race. Jindal and Perry were quintessential red state govs that also held similar lines to Walker. maybe its my time in CA, but Kasich reminds me too much of his buddy, Arnold.
     
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    Can't put lipstick on a pig.

    All Trump has is marketing gimmicks. This tells me he knows he's in trouble with delegates and that no one is getting 1237 until the convention.

    In that scenario Trump can't get delegates on his own he'd have to have a deal with Kasich. But if that were going to happen I think Cruz uses the nuclear option and unbinds all delegates before the first ballot.

    Otherwise Cruz wins on ballot 2 or 3. Trump has alienated too many GOP folks, a 3 month image campaign isn't going to work. Yesterday alone he called for changing the Republican right to life plank to one that is closer to the Dems. While he is pandering to his massive women negatives, he just lost >75% of the convention delegates.

    People want to characterize his as this brilliant marketer...how so? This is a guy that places a bet on every horse in the race....sure he wins, but he loses much more.
     
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    ...^^^actually, you can put lipstick on a pig........you can also put a dress on it and call it "Monique"......but it's still a pig. :blazerwookie:
     
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    Or my favorite, "You can stick a rose in someone's ass but that doesn't make it a vase".
     
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    :biglaugh::clap:
    :roflmao::roflmao:
     
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    btw- (from another article, noted at bottom page) :

    "The transcript of our meeting with Kasich will be released later Wednesday. You will be able to read and hear for yourself what a grown-up running to be leader of the free world sounds like. That Kasich cannot gain any traction is a pity for his party — and a boon for Clinton". ie, Washington Post
     
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    ...it's really dumbfounding.
     
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    this is by far the craziest POTUS Election Yr., I can ever recall....even crazier than some of the goofballs of past decades:
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    or- more modern times, tho' a joke:
    upload_2016-4-23_4-38-32.jpeg
     
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